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Post by firebot on Sept 12, 2010 23:29:31 GMT -5
ahhhhdeeeoooohhhhh breaker breaker Hello all i am in need of some assistance with a series 1 goldie eagle am only set. Im trying to locate a schematic for the pair.I have repaired everthing i have found bad re tubed them and have them powering up but have no idea what the rocket scientist the had the set played with. If anyone doesnt mind giving me a hand id love to get the birds singing again. thanks in advance !!!!!!
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 13, 2010 1:49:28 GMT -5
My range of knowledge with the Brownings includes the Series 2 through the Mark III but I'll try to point you in the right direction. I think that the Series 1 is the R2700 receiver with S9 transmitter. If I'm right on that I can search some websites for Browning equipment and hopefully locate the schematic. Are you having any problems and if so what are they/it? There are techs on this board that have more knowledge than me and if they reply to your post you might get quicker information than I can provide.
Tombstone.
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Post by cbrown on Sept 13, 2010 8:36:44 GMT -5
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Post by firebot on Sept 13, 2010 9:30:14 GMT -5
i have an almost complete set of Sams manuals and this set doesnt match any of the radios listed in them .I found a picture of what they look like and (note no "on the air"indicator)just a spot bulb on the transmiter.I have no information on how to align either of the units.They both fire up reciever recieves all be it not good' the transmiter keys and the meter shows modulation but no carrier or signal out.(picture attached) Attachments:
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Post by firebot on Sept 13, 2010 9:43:51 GMT -5
I'd like to add a thanks for the responce!!! Great site grump i plan on tuning in wed night i hope your still going live!!
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 13, 2010 14:02:54 GMT -5
I didn't read your post correctly where you said that you have a series 1 Golden Eagle. I have a Series 2 (R27, S23) and a Series 1 would be before that. They didn't make any radio of these two that were Golden Eagles. The Golden Eagle was the first radio made after the Series 2, so there is no Golden Eagle Series 2 or 1 that I ever heard of. The Series 1 would be older than my R27, S23, Series 2. I think that the Series 1 is the R2700, S9, but that isn't what you have. Your picture is a little dark and I can't tell for sure but It could be the Golden Eagle that most people call the Mark I and there's no Mark designation printed on them, "till the Mark II. Does your radio fit that description and does it have a SSB position on a switch on the receiver? Some Mark II's had the SSB switch and I don't know what they called them. I'm just trying to narrow things down so we can figure out what you have but it's not a Series 1. Your picture made things a lot clearer. It's a Mark I or Mark II, Mark I just has the Golden Eagle designation, the Mark II has both the Golden Eagle and the Mark II designation. I know that this is very confusing but now we have your radio narrowed to two models, which is a help.
Tombstone
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Post by firebot on Sept 13, 2010 15:02:54 GMT -5
there is no mark II designation on either unit. Both units have golden eagle printed under the channel selector knobs. No it has no ssb selector. From looking at the Sams manual CB10 the face as well as the chassis are different. They also differ from the MarkII's listed in CB27 and CB39 as those 2 manuals are for ssb units. In addition it has an ink stamped model B on the back edge of the receiver chassis plate.
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Post by wd8nia on Sept 13, 2010 20:15:45 GMT -5
As per the Browning Collector's Site it's a Series 1 Golden Eagle. Looking at that page really has me lusting for a MK III AM rig again.... sigh. Doesn't help much for the question at hand, but 2600 should have it pretty much squared away. Nice rig and enjoy. 73
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 13, 2010 21:25:31 GMT -5
That's what I was more or less thinking. The Radio is the first Golden Eagle with no Mark designation on the front, just Golden Eagle. I have one here and there's nothing but the serial number stamped on the back of the receiver's chassis.. I don't understand, Series 2 is stamped on the rear of the receiver's chassis of my R27, S23 radio. That's why I was thinking that the R2700, S9 must be a Series 1, maybe not. I'm wrong somewhere. I've seen two versions of the first two Golden Eagles. One didn't have any Mark designation on it, just Golden Eagle, and was a 23 channel AM only set just like the picture. The other Golden Eagle had Mark II printed on the front and it had a switch marked something like Sideband, or Sideband 1 and 2, whatever, it switched the rig to some sideband, and another pot for fine tuning on the receiver only. I know that this Mark II transmitted on one of the sidebands or maybe both by just switching the receiver to sideband, I had one. It might have been a double sideband outfit. It wasn't the SSB 15 set either. Firebot's radio is the first Golden Eagle for sure, we now know that. I'm sure that 2600 has seen these posts and will chime in, but the radio is for sure the first Golden Eagle. I have no Idea what the ink stamped Model B is.
Tombstone
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Post by phantom1 on Sept 13, 2010 21:39:04 GMT -5
Did we ever determine where to find a schem for the Golden Eagle ?? I have a set like Firebot and also been looking for man and schem for them. The receiver as well as the transmtr is am only.
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Post by firebot on Sept 13, 2010 22:06:53 GMT -5
All the input is greatly appreciated guys. I have been frothing at the mouth wanting to get this unit on the air. The Regency Range Gain i've been using is doing ok but i have a need to PING haha.And like i stated earlier I have an almost complete set of sam's manuals so if anyone needs any info send me a message. I have dup's of many issues too. Yes phantom1 both units are am only.
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Post by cbrown on Sept 14, 2010 8:30:15 GMT -5
Did we ever determine where to find a schem for the Golden Eagle ?? I have a set like Firebot and also been looking for man and schem for them. The receiver as well as the transmtr is am only. I have nothing on the Golden Eagle. Try talking to these guys: browninglabsinc.smfforfree3.com/index.php
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Post by firebot on Sept 14, 2010 15:50:32 GMT -5
More joy!! i found a bad tube socket that hosts the 6AQ5 tube and a blown resistor. Not sure what the resistor value is but im still looking.Just updating progress
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Post by phantom1 on Sept 14, 2010 19:09:38 GMT -5
Firebot, If it would help I would be glad to look in my golden eagle receiver and id the resistor if it would help. My eagles are playing now that I replaced one bad tube in the receiver.
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Post by firebot on Sept 14, 2010 19:44:16 GMT -5
That would be a big help Phantom or if you have a digital camera maybe some well lit close ups ? At this point im grateful for any help
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Post by phantom1 on Sept 14, 2010 20:13:54 GMT -5
Firebot, Pix are on the way shortly to your yahoo email address. My eagles are the series 2 with the on air light on transmitter and the receiver is the one with the 3 position rf gain . Burkett has manuals with schem for either series 1 or 2 . Fixer probably does too. de phantom1....................Bruce
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Post by firebot on Sept 14, 2010 20:48:32 GMT -5
Great Thanks for your help. Fixer replied to a post i made on the browning golden eagle forums.And is going to see about getting the schematics to me. Ill forward them to you if youd like
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Post by phantom1 on Sept 14, 2010 20:51:49 GMT -5
Yes that would be great. I use the golden eagle forum also good guys there too.
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Post by firebot on Sept 14, 2010 22:28:20 GMT -5
Excelent photos they are a big help!! if you havent put them back in the case cand you give me the color code off the resistor directly under the blue capasitor on the reciever thats the one thats fried. I can see i have a few other things to change too. thanks
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Post by warlock35p0 on Sept 15, 2010 8:28:23 GMT -5
Eagles don't sing, they scream. warlock35po. Two sets MKII's, one set MKIII's, one set MKIIII's.
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 15, 2010 9:17:08 GMT -5
Firebot, I didn't reply to your last PM because the 68R and 69T is the one that has the sideband switch on the receiver and fine tuning control. You have the plain (mark I) Golden Eagle.
Tombstone
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Post by phantom1 on Sept 15, 2010 10:25:25 GMT -5
Firebot , I wiil look tonight and email you with that info. Phantom1
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Post by FIXR on Sept 16, 2010 15:07:47 GMT -5
Firebot, I didn't reply to your last PM because the 68R and 69T is the one that has the sideband switch on the receiver and fine tuning control. You have the plain (mark I) Golden Eagle. Tombstone The 68R and 68T are the plain Golden Eagle's The 69R and 69T are the Golden Eagle MKII's Fixr
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Post by firebot on Sept 16, 2010 23:56:44 GMT -5
I want to thank you all for the help. I find it refreshing to receive support and assistance. I do get tired of the crap the current crowd of skip shooters fill the air with! And really miss just talking to ppl long distance. My dad and i used to have a trophy wall with qsl cards from all over. Who knows maybe some one has one of our old ones! stranger things have happend.Those of you that have any from the 60's look through them for call sign KOM 1144 The Hawk!!
73s Firebot
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 20, 2010 13:08:19 GMT -5
Fixr, at least we know what model Browning Firebot has. Now I'm completely confused and I know that you know what model is what. I didn't realize that there are so many variations. In my Sam's index, under Browning, it also has Nichols Electronics, then all of the models. I was wrong on my post of the Mark II that I had. The rear of the chassis' were stamped 69R and 69T. It had the sideband switch and fine tuning on the receiver and would transmit, receive, on sideband. I don't remember the switch being marked for upper or lower SSB, was this radio perhaps Double Sideband? I see the Mark II Series "B" listed also. I gather from this that there are two models of the Mark II? I need straightened out on this. Maybe I'm suffering from Browning overload. I hope to talk to you again when conditions are right and we're both on the same frequency.
Tombstone
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Post by FIXR on Sept 20, 2010 15:11:03 GMT -5
Tombstone,
The MKII series "B" didn't have the Collins mechanical filter in it. Supposedly when Rockwell took over Collins they raised the price of the filter rather significantly and Browning didn't want to raise the price of the receiver. They in turn added two IF transformers to replace the filter. The series "B" receiver is almost the same as the later MKIII.
Fixr
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 20, 2010 16:37:50 GMT -5
Thanks, Fixr. Mine had the Collins filter. I still don't understand how the radio worked on sideband just by switching the receiver when there was no sideband switch on the transmitter?
Tombstone
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Post by FIXR on Sept 20, 2010 16:46:45 GMT -5
Tombstone,
Simple, the MKII setup had two transmitters. The 69 T for AM only and the SSB-15 for SSB only. The X-100 Transadaptor connected both transmitters to the single receiver.
Fixr
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Sept 20, 2010 19:17:01 GMT -5
Fixr, I'm familiar with the Transadapter but wasn't using one, so the transmitter had to be the SSB-15, although I think I remember 69T stamped on the chassis. I don't remember the transmitter being marked SSB-15. It's been so long ago that now as I think about it, I'm questioning my memory. I've never heard of a them making a double sideband rig and it couldn't have been that anyway because it showed 4 to 5 watts out on AM. I wish I had it now. You'll love this, I sold it to some idiot that saw the tube OB2 cherry red. He didn't know it's the regulator and took it to some "tech" who messed with it so bad that they practically burned up the whole rig. A waste of a nice radio. Thanks for the info and take care.
Tombstone
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Post by crazybob on Sept 29, 2010 17:55:19 GMT -5
I've seen 2 different versions of the GE (MarkOne). The trans. had a "spot" light on it. Some say "On Air". The rec., some have RF gain continous pot, & some have a 3 position Nor., Distance, & loc. knob. also some have fine tuning, & some say bandspread. These are great am-only Browning base stations!
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