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Post by BBB on Nov 22, 2015 13:40:53 GMT -5
I listened in last night to CH 16 Upper Side Band and the "Jersey Guys" were in there. There's also a group in the Great Northeast (Philly) that split CH 26 & 27 on 27.270 Lower Side Band that get in there some evenings. Helps to have a VFO to pick them out
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 29, 2015 2:14:06 GMT -5
Yeah mite be able to hear some of you guys on SSB. Plus it just fun running old rigs on sideband because they drift so bad. In the old 23 channel days 16,17 were SSB channels back then. Actually the older rigs (most of them anyway) drift much less than the newest crop of Chinese made radios. Galaxy radios are notorious for drift, especially over temperature. This is interesting, SB. Wondering if they're using cheap coils and caps in these newer radios? I remember reading an old Doug DeMaw (W1FB. S.K.) book called "Practical RF Design Manual" where he mentioned internal circulating RF currents in the caps causing drift. He also said that when coils heat from circulating currents, there is a slight change that takes place in the adjacent-winding capacitance, and that can also be a drift culprit. Great, awesome book to read, guys, even thought it is dated. The best thing about Doug's writing style is that he took the very technical aspects of RF engineering and explained things so that the common man could understand them. I have everything the guys ever written. 73, Randy, AB5NI
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Post by BBB on Nov 29, 2015 18:36:07 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that anytime a crystal is exposed to varying temperatures it can vary in frequency.
One of the mods I see for export and CB radios are "bonding" the individual crystal covers to other metal objects on the PC board such as nearby tuning cans (via soldering a solid wire or flat piece of light gauge sheet metal) in what I believe is an attempt to stabilize the temperature of the crystal's metal casing/can. Other mods locate a resistor next to the crystal to warm it up.
Some operators intentionally "split" frequencies for increased privacy and are doing so with rigs that can "slide" there with open clarifiers or built in VFOs like the RCI 2950 series of radios.
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Post by Sandbagger on Nov 29, 2015 18:59:29 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that anytime a crystal is exposed to varying temperatures it can vary in frequency. One of the mods I see for export and CB radios are "bonding" the individual crystal covers to other metal objects on the PC board such as nearby tuning cans (via soldering a solid wire or flat piece of light gauge sheet metal) in what I believe is an attempt to stabilize the temperature of the crystal's metal casing/can. Other mods locate a resistor next to the crystal to warm it up. Some operators intentionally "split" frequencies for increased privacy and are doing so with rigs that can "slide" there with open clarifiers or built in VFOs like the RCI 2950 series of radios. Any oscillator will drift if the conditions that generate the frequency change in some way. Crystals are supposed to be much more stable than an LC tank circuit. But crystals are sensitive to changes in load capacitance as well as temperature. PLL radios are no more stable than old style synthesized radios because they still depend on reference crystals. In addition, the VCO in a PLL radio is sensitive to varying voltage (FM'ing), and the instantaneous error correction voltage changes create a greater degree of phase noise than simple crystal mixers do. One of the biggest issues with newer radios and frequency drift has to do with placement of reference and mixer crystals close to heat generating voltage regulators. There were fewer of those in older crystal synth radios, so the heating affect was less pronounced, therefore, less drift. Ironically, they eliminated the need for a synchronized TX/RX clarifiers in 40 channel PLL radios because in theory, PLL radios hold delta frequency tolerances between channels to be far closer than 14 crystal synthesizers did. But in practice, many of them drift far more, which actually makes a synchronized clarifier even more necessary. Go figure.....
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 30, 2015 0:16:56 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that anytime a crystal is exposed to varying temperatures it can vary in frequency. They can. Some of the better, "less El Cheapo" designs use crystal ovens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oven) to help stabilize that situation, 3B. These tactics probably help to stabilize the long-term drift, but drift can be a real pain in the butt. Most frequency-determining components in a local oscillator, such as a VFO, synthesized, or VCO-PLL rig are not cheap, even if we're talking about purchasing the things in lots of 100K. Such parts would be polystyrene capacitors, NP0 capacitors (That's Zero, not the letter O, by the way), or using two 500 pf caps in parallel to hit 1000 pf to help distribute the internal circulating currents. Unfortunately, these tactics can add additional price to a rig, and I seriously doubt these export rigs take these things in mind when trying to get a rig out and about in the world. Well, the design engineer might have taken these things into consideration, but the powers that be probably told him to make the thing as cheap as possible but still perform as decently as possible. BTW, what kind of drift are we talking about here, guys? These days, 100Hz drift after a 15 minute warmup and 50Hz after 3 hours is considered to be a pretty stable radio. Please don't tell me these "fancy" export rigs are drifting hundreds of Hertz? If so, there is no logical reason for this to be happening, other than flat-out cheapness or piss-poor design. Something tells me they're laying out the circuit with some CAD package and using routing software that doesn't take local-oscillator stability into account! :/ Hmmm. Now I'm wondering if they're using SMT components in the local oscillator? If so, that could also be the culprit, and a serious one at that. In other words, there's not enough physical size to properly handle the temperature change via circulating currents. If I remember correctly, things being too warm cause positive frequency drift, which also makes me ask if the drift in these rigs is almost always positive in frequency? I'd bet a dollar to a donut that it is, guys. It's amazing that the FCC would even allow such a rig into the U.S. OTOH, I guess they are marketing the things to the "HAM" community, and not allowing them in might violate some form of trade agreement or something. (Shrug.) Personally, I'm going to go with the FCC is as corrupt as the other government agencies. 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 30, 2015 0:56:52 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that anytime a crystal is exposed to varying temperatures it can vary in frequency. One of the mods I see for export and CB radios are "bonding" the individual crystal covers to other metal objects on the PC board such as nearby tuning cans (via soldering a solid wire or flat piece of light gauge sheet metal) in what I believe is an attempt to stabilize the temperature of the crystal's metal casing/can. Other mods locate a resistor next to the crystal to warm it up. Some operators intentionally "split" frequencies for increased privacy and are doing so with rigs that can "slide" there with open clarifiers or built in VFOs like the RCI 2950 series of radios. Any oscillator will drift if the conditions that generate the frequency change in some way. Crystals are supposed to be much more stable than an LC tank circuit. But crystals are sensitive to changes in load capacitance as well as temperature. PLL radios are no more stable than old style synthesized radios because they still depend on reference crystals. In addition, the VCO in a PLL radio is sensitive to varying voltage (FM'ing), and the instantaneous error correction voltage changes create a greater degree of phase noise than simple crystal mixers do. One of the biggest issues with newer radios and frequency drift has to do with placement of reference and mixer crystals close to heat generating voltage regulators. There were fewer of those in older crystal synth radios, so the heating affect was less pronounced, therefore, less drift. Ironically, they eliminated the need for a synchronized TX/RX clarifiers in 40 channel PLL radios because in theory, PLL radios hold delta frequency tolerances between channels to be far closer than 14 crystal synthesizers did. But in practice, many of them drift far more, which actually makes a synchronized clarifier even more necessary. Go figure..... The kicker here is that a good VCO requires rock-solid regulation. Phase noise -- BAH! -- and the sad thing about this would be that it's going to be the main factor in determining the noise floor and the rigs overall dynamic range. Let's not even talk about using active mixers here. Hopefully, these guys are using passive mixers and aren't using an RF pre-amp on these rigs. Well, I guess they could do it, but I'd sure as hell have a switch to bypass the thing. Wait. Wait. Additional cost, so they'll have to live with additional noise . Sometimes I think we should just write a prospectus, make a video or two, and do a KickStarter project to make the ultimate, rock-solid rig that incorporates butt-stomping AM, FM, USB, LSB, and CW -- no holds barred! For instance, 10KHz AM; class A tube audio with a decent audio transformer ; a really good RF amp on the frontend; a good passive mixer, etc. In other words, we'd leave out all of this "let's make it cheap so we can increase profit margins" baloney. The really, really sad thing here is that, as individuals, we can design and build much better radios than mass manufacturing can ever produce. Yes, that rig, even as a kit, would not be cheap. OTOH, since we'd all build the things, we' have a great understanding of rig, and it would be a solid performer for the rest of our lives. Unfortunately, I doubt this will ever happen, but one can dream. 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by Sandbagger on Nov 30, 2015 7:40:44 GMT -5
Any oscillator will drift if the conditions that generate the frequency change in some way. Crystals are supposed to be much more stable than an LC tank circuit. But crystals are sensitive to changes in load capacitance as well as temperature. PLL radios are no more stable than old style synthesized radios because they still depend on reference crystals. In addition, the VCO in a PLL radio is sensitive to varying voltage (FM'ing), and the instantaneous error correction voltage changes create a greater degree of phase noise than simple crystal mixers do. One of the biggest issues with newer radios and frequency drift has to do with placement of reference and mixer crystals close to heat generating voltage regulators. There were fewer of those in older crystal synth radios, so the heating affect was less pronounced, therefore, less drift. Ironically, they eliminated the need for a synchronized TX/RX clarifiers in 40 channel PLL radios because in theory, PLL radios hold delta frequency tolerances between channels to be far closer than 14 crystal synthesizers did. But in practice, many of them drift far more, which actually makes a synchronized clarifier even more necessary. Go figure..... Sometimes I think we should just write a prospectus, make a video or two, and do a KickStarter project to make the ultimate, rock-solid rig that incorporates butt-stomping AM, FM, USB, LSB, and CW -- no holds barred! For instance, 10KHz AM; class A tube audio with a decent audio transformer ; a really good RF amp on the frontend; a good passive mixer, etc. In other words, we'd leave out all of this "let's make it cheap so we can increase profit margins" baloney. The really, really sad thing here is that, as individuals, we can design and build much better radios than mass manufacturing can ever produce. Yes, that rig, even as a kit, would not be cheap. OTOH, since we'd all build the things, we' have a great understanding of rig, and it would be a solid performer for the rest of our lives. Unfortunately, I doubt this will ever happen, but one can dream. Once upon a time, we had rigs like that. They were called Browning, Tram, Demco, Sonar etc. They had superior design and performance showed. But those rigs, as good as they were, could not compete on a price basis with mass produced solid state rigs built overseas. That's also what eventually killed Heathkit. It actually cost more to kit parts, than it did to mass produce the completed radio. Back in its heyday, Heathkit became popular, not only with those who actually wanted to build their own gear, but also those who built their own gear to save a few $$$ over the cost of a commercially built rig (Think: Collins, Hallicrafters etc.) When the "big 3" (Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu) from Japan hit the market, the cost advantage of building your own Heathkit dissolved, and so did the company. Ironically, Japan's "big 3" is now facing similar economic challenges from cheap Chinese radios like TYT, Baofeng etc. The bottom line is that it might be fun to design the "perfect" radio (and the definition of "perfect" is highly subjective depending on the person), and for those who posses the necessary skills and the tools to accomplish it, it would be great to build a one-off just for the experience. But it would not be cost effective to do as business model. Just ask Ten-Tec.
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Post by Sandbagger on Nov 30, 2015 7:57:04 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that anytime a crystal is exposed to varying temperatures it can vary in frequency. They can. Some of the better, "less El Cheapo" designs use crystal ovens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oven) to help stabilize that situation, 3B. It's amazing that the FCC would even allow such a rig into the U.S. OTOH, I guess they are marketing the things to the "HAM" community, and not allowing them in might violate some form of trade agreement or something. (Shrug.) Personally, I'm going to go with the FCC is as corrupt as the other government agencies. The FCC most assuredly does NOT allow rigs such as these to be sold in the U.S. Yes, most of them are marketed as "10 meter" radios, but the FCC has strict rules which differentiate between what is a legitimate ham rig, from an illegal 11 meter radio. The FCC has compiled a list of radios that are not allowed to be sold in the U.S. and most RCI "10 meter" radios are on it. Despite that, the FCC is not doing a very effective job of enforcing their own rules. Call it lack of necessary funds, lack of priority, or whatever. Heck they can't stop the flow of drugs into the country, so it should be no surprise that they can't stop the flow of contraband radios either. Interestingly, as a tie in to an earlier discussion, supposedly, these contraband radios are not legal to own or sell in the U.S., but there was a debate as to whether legally licensed hams can actually use one of these radio on 10 meters. Normally, hams can legally use whatever radio they can put together, as long as they can ensure spectral compliance. But if these "10 meter" radios are not legal to possess, which rule has priority? The legal conundrum........
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Post by cbrown on Nov 30, 2015 9:52:54 GMT -5
And the Stoner Pro-40, one of the best SSB rigs that was ever made.
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 30, 2015 10:29:07 GMT -5
Sometimes I think we should just write a prospectus, make a video or two, and do a KickStarter project to make the ultimate, rock-solid rig that incorporates butt-stomping AM, FM, USB, LSB, and CW -- no holds barred! For instance, 10KHz AM; class A tube audio with a decent audio transformer ; a really good RF amp on the frontend; a good passive mixer, etc. In other words, we'd leave out all of this "let's make it cheap so we can increase profit margins" baloney. The really, really sad thing here is that, as individuals, we can design and build much better radios than mass manufacturing can ever produce. Yes, that rig, even as a kit, would not be cheap. OTOH, since we'd all build the things, we' have a great understanding of rig, and it would be a solid performer for the rest of our lives. Unfortunately, I doubt this will ever happen, but one can dream. Once upon a time, we had rigs like that. They were called Browning, Tram, Demco, Sonar etc. They had superior design and performance showed. But those rigs, as good as they were, could not compete on a price basis with mass produced solid state rigs built overseas. That's also what eventually killed Heathkit. It actually cost more to kit parts, than it did to mass produce the completed radio. Back in its heyday, Heathkit became popular, not only with those who actually wanted to build their own gear, but also those who built their own gear to save a few $$$ over the cost of a commercially built rig (Think: Collins, Hallicrafters etc.) When the "big 3" (Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu) from Japan hit the market, the cost advantage of building your own Heathkit dissolved, and so did the company. Ironically, Japan's "big 3" is now facing similar economic challenges from cheap Chinese radios like TYT, Baofeng etc. The bottom line is that it might be fun to design the "perfect" radio (and the definition of "perfect" is highly subjective depending on the person), and for those who posses the necessary skills and the tools to accomplish it, it would be great to build a one-off just for the experience. But it would not be cost effective to do as business model. Just ask Ten-Tec. Oh, I remember those days well, SB. Like a lot of the guys here, I drooled over those rigs that I couldn't afford on paper-route money, cutting grass, and washing dishes at a local pizza place. My parents could easily afford a rig like that, but my Dad believed in teaching us how to work and get along with others in the process, so he wasn't about to buy anything like that for me. OTOH, he did buy me a FT-101E for my birthday and high school graduation, but I also had the callsign KA5DFD to boot . He knew I wasn't going to pick up everything and move. We lived 5 blocks from the University of Louisiana, so he knew I wasn't leaving anytime soon . Actually, I think the main reason he purchased the thing was to upgrade his Drake TR4-C . I really, really enjoyed and miss the tube audio that came out of that rig! As far as Heathkit goes, I was really, really sad to see them go. I loved building my HW-8 ORP rig and supply, and I really enjoyed using a Warrior amplifier some friends of mine and I restored in the late 80's. Wish I still had that amp! That things was a "brick crap house" and then some! . I often wonder how Ameritron's 811 amp stacks up. I've seen the Baofeng rig. I'm guessing that it's a software-defined radio that uses tons of disposable SMT. Never heard of TYT. I'll give them a search on Google and see what gives with them. As far as building the perfect one-off rig goes, I'd have to say that it would most definitely not be cost effective. OTOH, if it used a modular design where you'd give them a selection between "this module will perform well and is cheap to build" and "this module is the Rolls Royce of audio amplification," for example, then you might be able to get costs a bit under control. You could also offer pre-assembled modules as well. The idea here is not to make a profit, btw. I'm thinking more along the lines of designing and building a generic rig that has tried and true modules that have been used and tested and are shown to perform well. It would be a rig that a lot of us would love to run as a daily driver -- not some Jay Leno "she has 14 miles or her!" car in a spotless showroom . Since you are mentioning Ten-Tec here, I'm hoping that they're still doing well, or have they gone by the wayside? 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 30, 2015 10:58:23 GMT -5
They can. Some of the better, "less El Cheapo" designs use crystal ovens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oven) to help stabilize that situation, 3B. It's amazing that the FCC would even allow such a rig into the U.S. OTOH, I guess they are marketing the things to the "HAM" community, and not allowing them in might violate some form of trade agreement or something. (Shrug.) Personally, I'm going to go with the FCC is as corrupt as the other government agencies. The FCC most assuredly does NOT allow rigs such as these to be sold in the U.S. Yes, most of them are marketed as "10 meter" radios, but the FCC has strict rules which differentiate between what is a legitimate ham rig, from an illegal 11 meter radio. The FCC has compiled a list of radios that are not allowed to be sold in the U.S. and most RCI "10 meter" radios are on it. Despite that, the FCC is not doing a very effective job of enforcing their own rules. Call it lack of necessary funds, lack of priority, or whatever. Heck they can't stop the flow of drugs into the country, so it should be no surprise that they can't stop the flow of contraband radios either. Interestingly, as a tie in to an earlier discussion, supposedly, these contraband radios are not legal to own or sell in the U.S., but there was a debate as to whether legally licensed hams can actually use one of these radio on 10 meters. Normally, hams can legally use whatever radio they can put together, as long as they can ensure spectral compliance. But if these "10 meter" radios are not legal to possess, which rule has priority? The legal conundrum........ A conundrum and then some, SB! If the FCC confiscates these rigs when they find them, I wonder what they eventually do with them? I guess they could remove the final(s) and sell them and the rest of the rig to the HAM community to use "as parts." Actually, I'd be extremely surprised if this isn't exactly what they're doing. I only want to know where I can purchase or bid on the things. Might be a good time to call them up and find out how to get our paws on some of these rigs. 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by ab5ni on Nov 30, 2015 11:03:24 GMT -5
And the Stoner Pro-40, one of the best SSB rigs that was ever made. Don't remember ever hearing of this rig, CB. Did it come with a huge bag of weed and discount coupons for beer and pizza? With a name like that, one has to wonder! 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by BBB on Nov 30, 2015 21:49:33 GMT -5
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Post by Sandbagger on Nov 30, 2015 22:32:54 GMT -5
And the Stoner Pro-40, one of the best SSB rigs that was ever made. Don't remember ever hearing of this rig, CB. Did it come with a huge bag of weed and discount coupons for beer and pizza? With a name like that, one has to wonder! 73, Randy AB5NI I learned about Stoner long after the heyday of CB radio. No one I knew ever had a Stoner Pro-40 back in the day. It's been given high marks by several internet CB historians. Close inspection reveals that it looks like a very close relative of a CPI, which was also American Made. It was strictly a SSB radio. No AM was included, although it did have a provision to switch to an external AM radio when the operator decided to leave the gilded splendor of the SSB world and wallow in the mud with the AM crowd. What made the Stoner special was the receiver. The transmitter was not all that strong, and could only managed about a 10 watt output. But receiver performance was said to be spectacular. Not many of the radios were made, so any you may find now will be pricey on the E-Bay stage. Since no one I knew ever had one, I have no desire to acquire one. But you never know what might fall from the sky.........
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Post by ab5ni on Dec 1, 2015 0:25:21 GMT -5
Interesting read, 3B. You've got to love that operating desk! . I love the fact that he realized that he must have a rock-solid frontend on the thing. 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by ab5ni on Dec 1, 2015 0:38:51 GMT -5
Don't remember ever hearing of this rig, CB. Did it come with a huge bag of weed and discount coupons for beer and pizza? With a name like that, one has to wonder! 73, Randy AB5NI Although I've listened to AM and SSB my entire life, I must admit I love listening to AM much more than SSB. In my mind, a SSB signal is a bandwidth compromise, kind of like the old telephone POTS system with its 3KHz bandwidth limitation when compared to the bandwidth available today on phones, skype, or what have you. Now you have me wondering what the schematic on the thing looks like, SB. Wonder if it's a single or double-conversion setup? If I ever run across one in my travels, I'll make sure I let you guys know about it here on grumpy's. 73, Randy AB5NI
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Post by cbrown on Dec 1, 2015 10:02:19 GMT -5
The Stoner transmit did benefit from a nice AB amp if you happened to have one. Very clean signal.
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Post by No Streak on Dec 2, 2015 11:54:30 GMT -5
I just wanted to throw this out there to you guys. SSB Classic Radio Roundup Ch16! I have a some guys in Delaware county that want it to happen. And would sure like to have more people join in the fun. Ch16 Lsb @ 8pm Thursday's. I would like to get most of the Classic Radio Roundup up crew involved. Going to try this Thursday 12/3/2015! Hope to hear you guys in there.
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 2, 2015 13:58:33 GMT -5
I just wanted to throw this out there to you guys. SSB Classic Radio Roundup Ch16! I have a some guys in Delaware county that want it to happen. And would sure like to have more people join in the fun. Ch16 Lsb @ 8pm Thursday's. I would like to get most of the Classic Radio Roundup up crew involved. Going to try this Thursday 12/3/2015! Hope to hear you guys in there. Sounds like a great idea. SSB travels further, with a 3db reduction in noise over AM, so the possibilities for contact with the more distant stations should be better. And with all of those big base SSB classic radios that we all have, it would be cool to exercise the SSB part of them, rather than just AM. Unfortunately, I don't have much bandwidth to play radio, so unless I get a free night, I probably won't be around much. But when I get Spew Radio running again (which hopefully will happen tonight), I'll try to tune the channel to 16 on Thursday nights.
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Post by No Streak on Dec 2, 2015 15:21:01 GMT -5
Hopefully maybe get Spitfire in their he won't have to run Zero-Five level of power lol. Would be good to hear most of the gang in there be like a blast from the past!
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Post by BBB on Dec 2, 2015 15:46:08 GMT -5
Hope there is a good turnout I always find it a challenge to ID folks voices on SSB. You have to listen extra hard. Maybe you'll get to talk Buck Shot. He's from Boyertown PA and talks to his friends over in New Jersey on 16 SSB. If you hear him in there on tell him Sparky said hello if I don't make it.
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Post by No Streak on Dec 2, 2015 18:32:29 GMT -5
Hope there is a good turnout I always find it a challenge to ID folks voices on SSB. You have to listen extra hard. Maybe you'll get to talk Buck Shot. He's from Boyertown PA and talks to his friends over in New Jersey on 16 SSB. If you hear him in there on tell him Sparky said hello if I don't make it. Roger, Good Buddy!
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 2, 2015 19:40:29 GMT -5
Hopefully maybe get Spitfire in their he won't have to run Zero-Five level of power lol. Would be good to hear most of the gang in there be like a blast from the past! He wouldn't be able to run the big amp anyway, since it's class "C". He'd have to settle for a 120 watt single tuber.
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 3, 2015 22:02:32 GMT -5
I just wanted to throw this out there to you guys. SSB Classic Radio Roundup Ch16! I have a some guys in Delaware county that want it to happen. And would sure like to have more people join in the fun. Ch16 Lsb @ 8pm Thursday's. I would like to get most of the Classic Radio Roundup up crew involved. Going to try this Thursday 12/3/2015! Hope to hear you guys in there. Well, I did put the Spew Radio receiver on 16 LSB to see if it would hear anything. I couldn't hang around, but I did hear two guys in there talking right around 8:00, so there is some SSB activity. Don't know where (or who) they were, but they got stronger if I pointed the beam down toward DelCo.
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Post by No Streak on Dec 4, 2015 17:29:02 GMT -5
I just wanted to throw this out there to you guys. SSB Classic Radio Roundup Ch16! I have a some guys in Delaware county that want it to happen. And would sure like to have more people join in the fun. Ch16 Lsb @ 8pm Thursday's. I would like to get most of the Classic Radio Roundup up crew involved. Going to try this Thursday 12/3/2015! Hope to hear you guys in there. Well, I did put the Spew Radio receiver on 16 LSB to see if it would hear anything. I couldn't hang around, but I did hear two guys in there talking right around 8:00, so there is some SSB activity. Don't know where (or who) they were, but they got stronger if I pointed the beam down toward DelCo. Yeah I was in there talking to Buffalo Bob till the dump truck drivers on that channel started complaining. ?
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Post by No Streak on Dec 4, 2015 17:30:54 GMT -5
Well, I did put the Spew Radio receiver on 16 LSB to see if it would hear anything. I couldn't hang around, but I did hear two guys in there talking right around 8:00, so there is some SSB activity. Don't know where (or who) they were, but they got stronger if I pointed the beam down toward DelCo. Yeah I was in there talking to Buffalo Bob till the dump truck drivers on that channel started complaining. ? Always got someone peeing on your rainbow! LOL
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 4, 2015 20:41:07 GMT -5
Well, I did put the Spew Radio receiver on 16 LSB to see if it would hear anything. I couldn't hang around, but I did hear two guys in there talking right around 8:00, so there is some SSB activity. Don't know where (or who) they were, but they got stronger if I pointed the beam down toward DelCo. Yeah I was in there talking to Buffalo Bob till the dump truck drivers on that channel started complaining. ? Dump truck drivers are like horse crap - they're all over the place. If they don't like the sound of a little old time SSB, they can find another channel to squat on.......
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Post by No Streak on Dec 23, 2015 12:41:11 GMT -5
Going to run with the Christmas eve SSB Classic Radio Roundup! Channel 16 LSB at 8pm Thursday hope to hear some people. Give a shout never know who's going to be there!
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Post by No Streak on Jan 8, 2016 6:53:26 GMT -5
SSB Classic Radio Roundup CH-16 LSB @8pm and warmup @7:30pm Thursday. We had 3 of us two running Tram D201's and 3rd running a classic microphone lol. It was fun running the Tram's on SSB hoping to get some more people involved. So if your floating around the band check out CH-16 SSB you mite find us there maybe hear Sparky or Spitfire, NightTrain, or even Sandbagger! The Classic Roundup crew!
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Post by whitetail on Jan 17, 2016 17:47:43 GMT -5
I must have overlooked this, is this going to be a weekly thing? if so I will be listening for the roundup crew.
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