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Post by **GRUMPY** on Jun 20, 2008 23:42:10 GMT -5
SBE Console II
Cobra 2000GTL
Cobra 139XLR
Lafayette Telstat/SSB 140
CPI 2000
Craig L232
Pace 1000B
Pearce-Simpson Simba
President Washington
Realistic Navaho TRC-457
CB Radios only!
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Jun 21, 2008 4:57:42 GMT -5
I don't think I can name ten but I'll go with what I've found to be solid state monsters.
Cobra 2000 GTL with D-104 Silver Eagle
SBE Trinidad with Turner Plus three
Regency CR 123b with Turner Plus three
I don't think I'm going to be able to come up with ten of anything.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jun 21, 2008 12:20:12 GMT -5
SBE Console II
Cobra 2000GTL
Cobra 139XLR
Lafayette Telstat/SSB 140
CPI 2000
Craig L232
Pace 1000B
Pearce-Simpson Simba
President Washington
Realistic Navaho TRC-457
CB Radios only! This is a tough question to answer, since it tends to be more of a "Which of you own radios was an audio monster", which may differ from which actually had the best audio. It also doesn't differentiate between which had the best overall audio quality, and which was simply the loudest. I'd have to say that from my own radios, the best overall audio quality goes to the Hy-Gain 623 although that's technically a hybrid radio. Next in line and too close to call: Royce 640 Cobra 135 SBE Console II SBE Trinidad The loudest radios I've had were the Midland 13-885 and the Realistic TRC-458/Cobra 139 XLR. Radio's that I've heard and were impressed with: Cobra 2000/148/142/Uniden Madison/Washington 8719 chassis radios Pierce Simpson Simba Lafayette SSB 140 (not particularly loud, but good tone quality) Regency CR-123 CPI-2000 (Great on SSB but mushy on AM)
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Post by captbarry on Jul 2, 2008 1:49:43 GMT -5
Nothing I can add here since I agree with all the posts. Oh Scott, by the way with any luck you will get to hear the Console II that I got from you on the Classic Net real soon. Man that was mean since I know you wish you had kept it!!!! Really though it is a fine radio and I will be using it on the net. Was out of town for a while with the band and did not know about the net. You can be sure I will be listening on 115 AM on Wed, and 155 SSB on Sat. Great idea for the net!!!!
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Jul 2, 2008 5:37:57 GMT -5
Nothing I can add here since I agree with all the posts. Oh Scott, by the way with any luck you will get to hear the Console II that I got from you on the Classic Net real soon. Man that was mean since I know you wish you had kept it!!!! Really though it is a fine radio and I will be using it on the net. Was out of town for a while with the band and did not know about the net. You can be sure I will be listening on 115 AM on Wed, and 155 SSB on Sat. Great idea for the net!!!! Barry... I can't take credit for the Classic Radio Roundup, that was Sandbagger's idea. I sent you a PM ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2008 11:15:03 GMT -5
My restored TRS-455 with my Turner +3 is loud as hell. I have had to lower the mod on in a couple times. I never had it above 100%, but people kept complaining it was too loud. I also have the Turner at 8 o'clock, because it squeals if I turn it any up further.
Surprised to see the TRC-457 on that list. I didn't think those were swinging radios.
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Post by Night Ranger on Jul 8, 2008 11:56:14 GMT -5
The Realistic TRC-451 40 channel sideband mobile will turn in to an audio monster if you unsolder TR-28. It has the typical pot adjustments for AMC and ALC, but if you really want to cut it loose you need to unsolder TR-28. Be warned though. The built in mic preamp is so hot that even the stock hand mic will over drive it a little once TR-28 is cut. Put the radio on an Astron RS-7a power supply, add a D-104 desk mic with the mic gain barely cracked, and it is a sweet sounding radio with plenty of audio to go around.
The Regency CR-230 23 channel mobile is an audio monster once clipped. A D-104 sounds great on it, but the receive is not very selective.
A Teaberry T-Dispatch can be made in to an audio monster if you are willing to change the value of two coupling capacitors just before the audio output transformer. Out of the box the Teaberry T-Dispatch is rather trebly sounding on both receive and transmit. After I changed the value of the two little coupling capacitors from 0.022 uf to 0.1 uf the locals thought I was on my tube type Robyn T-123B. Since the same audio circuit is used for receive the audio coming out of the speaker was much more warm and bassy.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jul 8, 2008 13:21:19 GMT -5
The Realistic TRC-451 40 channel sideband mobile will turn in to an audio monster if you unsolder TR-28. It has the typical pot adjustments for AMC and ALC, but if you really want to cut it loose you need to unsolder TR-28. Be warned though. The built in mic preamp is so hot that even the stock hand mic will over drive it a little once TR-28 is cut. Put the radio on an Astron RS-7a power supply, add a D-104 desk mic with the mic gain barely cracked, and it is a sweet sounding radio with plenty of audio to go around. I left my TRC-451 alone and just cranked the AMC pot to max. At that setting the modulation just barely exceeds 100%, with no positive clipping. I don't like clipping radios, it just makes them splatter. But yea, they do get "loud" that way. You're right that there is plenty of audio gain to go around, but the quality of the audio with the limiter still functional, while not as loud, is much fuller and cleaner. It would also seem that my TRC-451 is starting to show the repercussions of being on 24/7 as the streaming audio receiver. I now notice that the transmit and receive frequencies are no longer perfectly synchronized. I'm guessing there's an internal zener or other switched voltage difference in there that's drifting. Another candidate for the bench when I get some time. That brutal duty screwed up my Royce 640 as well. It now sounds distorted on SSB......
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Post by Sandbagger on Jul 8, 2008 13:26:02 GMT -5
Surprised to see the TRC-457 on that list. I didn't think those were swinging radios. Holy heck, those 858 SSB radios were real screamers if you worked them over properly. One of my all-time favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2008 15:11:07 GMT -5
I had one for repair (TRC-457)and sold it for parts. Had at least 5 different problems. I got $77 for a broken radio ! I call it recycling. The money goes into a fund to repair other radios, parts, SAMS books, etc. That radio wasn't all that cosmetically nice, and looked like the wrong clarifier mod had been put in. Channel mod, etc. Typicall hack job. So I decided it was better used for parts.
I do not like clipping. I don't really care if I am loud, so long as I am loud and clear. I like it at 100%. But the speaker audio on that TRC-455 is incredible. I am not sure what audio driver/chip it uses, but the audio is fantastic. As far as transmit audio, like I said, I have had to turn it down twice, unclipped and all. I only has it at 100%
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Post by needlebender2811 on Jul 27, 2008 12:27:48 GMT -5
I am told that my Royce 640 is an audio monster. I have yet to hear it myself but I I get great reports. Eli..
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Post by Sandbagger on Jul 27, 2008 16:28:07 GMT -5
I am told that my Royce 640 is an audio monster. I have yet to hear it myself but I I get great reports. Eli.. I have a Royce 640. I wouldn't call it an "audio monster" in terms of sheer loudness, but it does have great audio fidelity for a solid state rig. I like the way it sounds......
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Post by crazybob on Oct 6, 2008 13:43:32 GMT -5
Tram Titan III, Tram Corsair. Realistic TRC 30A , not kidding! Realistic TRC 433. Cobra 2000, President Madison, SBE Console II, Teaberry Stalker XX, .. I heard some very loud Midlands.
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Post by livewire on Dec 14, 2008 23:31:41 GMT -5
Tram D300 I can't think of anything better.
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Dec 15, 2008 8:27:02 GMT -5
The locals say that my 23 channel SBE Trinidad with a Turner plus three on it sounds better than my Cobra 2000 with a D-104 Silver Eagle. The reports indicate that the Trinidad has a studio quality sound, rich and warm with nothing clipped but you have to take these reports with a grain of salt, most people have a different idea of what studio quality is. They also say that all of my Brownings still sound the best using a G stand D-104, probably because of the tubes and the clarity of the modulation. I also have a Cobra 148 GTL-DX in my car with a Turner JM+2U mic on it and it really blasts but I don't think it's studio quality. I've set all of my radios for 80 to 100% modulation. I've read reviews on Ham sites that say 80% is where you want to be.
Tombstone
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Post by Kentucky Jim on Dec 15, 2008 22:55:15 GMT -5
Anyone want to buy or trade whatever for a SBE Console II. I've got one I'm getting ready to shove up on ebay pretty darn soon. I got it out, hooked it up, heard the truckers loud and clear. Thought before I'd try hollering to any of em, I'd check my SWR. Don't work. The needle in the meter won't move at all. Trying to set calibration or anything. Meter won't work. I've got the knowledge to use em, just not work on em.
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Post by spends2much on Feb 17, 2009 7:19:14 GMT -5
You's guys are forgetting the GE SUPER BASE!..Has every bit the audio of my tram D-201A and my Dak Mark 10 is no slouch either.
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Post by ohiocowboy1277 on May 12, 2009 23:18:53 GMT -5
while not the most powerful they sound great and have very high quallity audio the 2 im thinkin of are the old tube style johnsons and the golden eagles ive never owned either but have heard both and they have a sound that rivals radio dj equipment very clean rich audio
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on May 16, 2009 5:19:10 GMT -5
Solid state there Cowboy but you're right about the old Johnsons. I dug out my white face, replaced a few caps and tubes and was amazed at the audio quality with a stock mic. I'm going to say that my SBE Trinidad with Turner Plus Three mic is the modulation winner if I don't include the tube rigs.
Tombstone
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Post by dgtr43 on May 20, 2009 0:57:34 GMT -5
What about the Teaberry Tube Base Rigs? I heard they have loud audio with warm tube sound.
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Post by zman on Jun 1, 2009 21:55:08 GMT -5
I had a TRC 458 once that was stock, but i had it peaked and tweaked and holy cow, that thing was LOUD! I used the stock mic and was always being told to "Hold that mic away from you! Your audio is too hot"!!!!! My old Cobra 142 GTL is a talker. I think the previous owner had some sort of audio mod done to it but wow, it is a talker!!!! Another loud rig i had once was a Robyn 520D. It was bare stock, but i modded the mic. circuit and after that it was pretty stout in the audio department.
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Post by kph9362 on Jun 3, 2009 0:10:49 GMT -5
Has to be the Lafayette Telstat/SSB 140, thats what I've been talking on for years
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Post by missourimustang on Feb 22, 2011 18:02:38 GMT -5
I cant believe the Cobra 142GTL wasnt mentioned.I had one of those in the early 1990's.With nothing except a Turner 2 desk mic and antron 99 antenna,I bled across a jukebox a block and a half away., not to mention blowing up the preamp in my neighbors stereo.Other than that, the 2 loudest base's I ever heard was a Tram D201 and a Browning Golden Eagle Mk 3.
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Post by SteveInOregon on Feb 24, 2011 19:22:00 GMT -5
Turner + 3 on any radio, lol, or toaster, or lawn sprinkler, lol.
Seriously, to my "Audio Monster" does not mean broadcast studio quality, to me it means LOUD yet clear, and so my choces below reflect that.
Special note: The Stoner with an ICOM SM-10 graphic equalizer-compressor -pre amp dest mic is "almost" on the bottom end of real S-SSB = super single sideband aka broadcast quality
AM BASE: #1 Browning Mark III on a D104 # 2 Tram D201 on a D104
AM MOBILE: #1 Early 148GTL ( after mod tune ) on a Turner M+3B
SSB: #1 Stoner , Note: Push pre mic amp button on then with any stock mic, with mic amp-compressor off then with D104
#2 CPI Base + D104
SSB MOBILE: #1 CPI with Turner M+3B # 2 RCI 2950 with Turner M+3B
That is what I have noticed
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Post by rifleman on Feb 24, 2011 20:35:30 GMT -5
Cobra 2000GTL / 148GTL....
Without much work, and stock mics, they sound great.
But besides them, I don't consider any SOLID-STATE radios "Audio Monsters".
I am just spoiled by TUBE RADIOS.
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Post by SteveInOregon on Feb 25, 2011 2:05:36 GMT -5
Cobra 2000GTL / 148GTL.... Without much work, and stock mics, they sound great. But besides them, I don't consider any SOLID-STATE radios "Audio Monsters". I am just spoiled by TUBE RADIOS. "DITTOS" RifleMan, That is why I differentiate Audio Monster vs Broadcast Quality Audio , I would say a Kenwood 800 hybrid series or any old tuber even a drifter Siltronix , with a nice mic is a spoiler of this poll, lol.
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Post by crazybob on Mar 5, 2011 7:11:24 GMT -5
I bought a Cobra Cam 89 base from a friend for next to nothing. The rec is good but it does bleed. I love the tone control. This thing is a LOUD AUDIO MONSTER!! I use a Turner + 2 mic, & a TS Mod V (which will turn most any radio into a monster.)
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Post by Sandbagger on Mar 5, 2011 9:03:57 GMT -5
I bought a Cobra Cam 89 base from a friend for next to nothing. The rec is good but it does bleed. I love the tone control. This thing is a LOUD AUDIO MONSTER!! I use a Turner + 2 mic, & a TS Mod V (which will turn most any radio into a monster.) The CAM 89 was very popular around these parts in the 70's. That and the SBE Trinidad seemed to be a favorite among the strictly AM set.
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Post by crazybob on Mar 5, 2011 10:47:02 GMT -5
The Cobra Cam 89 is sitting on top of the SBE Trinadad. They are both very loud with nice receive, (except for desense & a lack of a NB). I installed a PAL VFO on the Cobra. It covers from around 10 channels below one up to about channel 38. I frowned upon transistorized radios ijn the 70's, because of bleed. I ran mostly Lafayette tube sets, & my Tram Titan II. I also had a Yaesu FT-101B from 1977-79.
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Post by porkchop611 on Mar 5, 2011 14:54:51 GMT -5
there are none
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