Sandbagger
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Post by Sandbagger on Aug 3, 2008 11:02:44 GMT -5
Agreed. But it would be much wiser to use an antenna that doesn't pick up all the static like the A99 and I-Max 2k antennas which a more prone to static. Using a aluminum antenna will help a lot in this area. I really don't see much difference at all between my Tram D201 and my Browning Mark IVA when it comes to one being better than the other for noise. The Tram is better then the R27,Mark II and Mark III.
The best radios I have ever used with best NB/ANL is the President HR2510 and the President Jackson. Putting either of these radios in-line would smash any of the Browning or Tram radios for receive. They were simply the best radios for receive that I ever owned! Yes, the Uniden noise blankers were second to none. They're better than any of the HF hams rigs I've used as well as any of the older CB radios. But for overall best sensitivity my D201 is still the winner. It hears down to .04uV on my HP generator (which is as low as it goes). Of course, there's no noise under those conditions.... |
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Post by mark4 on Aug 3, 2008 22:21:29 GMT -5
Well I'm not going to redesign my Golden Eagles.
A noise blanker that 2600 talked about would be great.
How about it 2600.
As for the Tram upgrade, sounds kind of interesting. Maybe you could work it out with picks and post it. Maybe enough people would eventually like to get a kit? As for the noise blanker in the Tram D201 half the time it is useless. If your buddy you talk to locally is running any heat close by. Or across town you have to shut it off because of distortion. And the same for anyone in your area-trucker whatever on another channel will be pulled in and massive bleedover! But it does help at times. Sure do agree with the Uniden NB circuits. That's why I have the Cobra 2000 when the noisy season is killing my receive from the crappy power line noise issues.
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Post by gator7 on Aug 6, 2008 6:57:22 GMT -5
So, It looks like the Brownings win. At least if you judge by the number of Votes for them.
But, I have to agree with some of you about the Tram noise blanker compared to the Browning's lack of one. Tram wins.
I still love my MK III.
73's
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Post by zapper on Aug 6, 2008 15:14:55 GMT -5
I have a Browning MK IVA and I receive less noise on that then I do on my Tram D201A.
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Post by Dr. Rigamortis on Aug 6, 2008 22:27:51 GMT -5
It kind of sounds like we need fixr or 2600 to make a radio with the Tram transmitter, and the Browning receiver, or was that the other way vicea versa?
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Post by Sandbagger on Aug 7, 2008 7:05:18 GMT -5
It kind of sounds like we need fixr or 2600 to make a radio with the Tram transmitter, and the Browning receiver, or was that the other way vicea versa? It's more complicated than that. It would have to be a radio with the Tram's receiver, the Browning's ping, a Uniden noise blanker, and a Cobra 2000 frequency counter. |
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Post by Sniper..Unit 305 on Aug 7, 2008 10:02:29 GMT -5
It kind of sounds like we need fixr or 2600 to make a radio with the Tram transmitter, and the Browning receiver, or was that the other way vicea versa? It's more complicated than that. It would have to be a radio with the Tram's receiver, the Browning's ping, a Uniden noise blanker, and a Cobra 2000 frequency counter. Now Sandbagger I am totally in for your sugestion here ! That in my opinion would be one great radio ! Sniper OT2194 |
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Post by Afterburner(OT-749) on Aug 7, 2008 17:22:26 GMT -5
I want to be first in line to purchase the prototype!
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Post by Afterburner(OT-749) on Aug 7, 2008 17:27:10 GMT -5
I can not speak for any Trams, never have owned one, only have heard them on air. Now I do have, had, and always will have Brownings and other than one needs a "Tune-up" I have never had a noise issue in my receive. Maybe because of where I live, or some other reason, but I just have never had. I have owned Cobra 2000's some stock some highly modified and in a comparison to my Brownings, I do not see much difference albeit some in the receive. Maybe because I am deaf? LOL No I am not deaf ... maybe noise deaf?
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Post by Sandbagger on Aug 7, 2008 18:04:52 GMT -5
I can not speak for any Trams, never have owned one, only have heard them on air. Now I do have, had, and always will have Brownings and other than one needs a "Tune-up" I have never had a noise issue in my receive. Maybe because of where I live, or some other reason, but I just have never had. I have owned Cobra 2000's some stock some highly modified and in a comparison to my Brownings, I do not see much difference albeit some in the receive. Maybe because I am deaf? LOL No I am not deaf ... maybe noise deaf? I don't think any of us (especially me) meant to imply that the Browning's receiver was inherently more "noisy" than the Tram's or any other. The only point I made was that if you live in an area more prone to man-made static, that the Tram was better equipped to suppress it, due to it being equipped with a true noise blanker circuit, while the Browning has only a simpler noise limiter. But neither radio can hold a candle to the Uniden radio's blankers. |
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Post by BionicChicken on Aug 7, 2008 18:41:49 GMT -5
I have for the most part always operated Brownings. I traded a set of Brownings for a D201 in the box, no mods at all, including everything that came with it, info, patches, etc.
After I hooked it up I was never aware of the noise and bleedover that was in my area. It was unreal. Late at night the Tram received great and was as sensitive as any other radio I have had. I set one of my Brownings up and used a antenna polarity switch from a Moonraker to swap between the Tram and Browning. When conditions were noisy on the Tram or bleedover was bad I would switch to the Browning and almost lose all of it. When it was quiet you couldn't tell the difference between the two.
One thing I did notice was the Tram would do more wattage than the Browning but the Browning drove amps harder (higher wattage output) than the Tram. Never figured that out.
Noisy or not the "Ping" always comes through.
BC
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Post by Dr. Rigamortis on Aug 11, 2008 8:07:19 GMT -5
Well Grumpy it looks like the conversation is dwendeling down. Are you satisfied with the discussion? Looks like the Browning wins in the popular vote, but does the Tram win the "electorial" vote?
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Aug 11, 2008 14:07:26 GMT -5
I would say that the Trams should get some kind of electoral vote but it's not my decision. I know that when they're working right that they have a wicked transmit and great receive. but I grew up on Browning radios and am a bit biased.
Tombstone
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Post by Sandbagger on Aug 11, 2008 14:15:59 GMT -5
I would say that the Trams should get some kind of electoral vote but it's not my decision. I know that when they're working right that they have a wicked transmit and great receive. but I grew up on Browning radios and am a bit biased. Tombstone This ties in with my initial comment that comparing Trams to Brownings was like comparing Fords and Chevys back in the day. Those who were brand loyalists were loyal to the end. I like both the Browning and the Tram, although for different reasons. Eventually I'll finish my comparison article and try to make an objective judgement...... |
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