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Post by BBB on Oct 17, 2012 8:19:26 GMT -5
Noticed that the ping is absent on one of my Browning Mark III SSB units when I tried side band. What does come thru the receiver speaker when I key up is a sound I can describe as a "car crash" Should there be a ping or is this nasty key up sound normal?
I checked on another SSB radio receiver and it appears that the SSB key up sound the Browning produces is muted so maybe it's not as bad as it sounds to the listener on the other end?
I'll have to try my other unit that has a "ping" delete switch to see if it does it on SSB.
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Post by Night Ranger on Oct 17, 2012 8:41:41 GMT -5
I suspect the Browning Mark III ping is an AM only effect due to the nature of sideband. My Browning Mark III also only pings on AM. Reports are the transmit sounds descent on sideband, but the sideband receive on a Browning Mark 3 sounds terrible. The Browning Mark 3 is definitely more of a AM rig.
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Post by Sandbagger on Oct 17, 2012 12:14:13 GMT -5
I suspect the Browning Mark III ping is an AM only effect due to the nature of sideband. My Browning Mark III also only pings on AM. Reports are the transmit sounds descent on sideband, but the sideband receive on a Browning Mark 3 sounds terrible. The Browning Mark 3 is definitely more of a AM rig. Night Ranger Since the "ping" is an artifact of receiver feedback, in order for it to work on SSB, you have to be perfectly zero-beated on your transmitter. And since the BFO on the MK III is noted for drift, that's a tough order. I've had mine ping on SSB when tuned in tight, but it sounds strange if the tuning is even a little bit off. I agree with Mike's assessment of the MK III's receiver performance on SSB. It's not a very good one. The transmitter is pretty good though, even if it only puts out about 10 watts. |
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Post by Pony on Oct 17, 2012 23:56:39 GMT -5
My Mark IVa ping is strange on SSB also...almost like it's pinging under water. My sideband is not that great on it either. A much better AM radio.
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Post by EagleIII on Oct 18, 2012 12:32:16 GMT -5
For what it's worth,
All I've owned since the early 70's have never pinged on SSB.
Not even my 1st one which was new.
I always get the sound of a broken spring or some other strange sound.
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Post by KneeBiter on Oct 18, 2012 17:42:40 GMT -5
QUISHHHHHH WONKKKKKKKK BEEMPPPPPP GUNKKKKK SHHHHHH
Thats all you will get
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Post by Sandbagger on Oct 18, 2012 18:35:29 GMT -5
QUISHHHHHH WONKKKKKKKK BEEMPPPPPP GUNKKKKK SHHHHHH Thats all you will get That almost sounds like Klingon.......  |
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Post by cbrown on Oct 19, 2012 8:58:10 GMT -5
You can always use the squelch to defeat any ping.
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Post by BBB on Oct 19, 2012 10:09:03 GMT -5
QUISHHHHHH WONKKKKKKKK BEEMPPPPPP GUNKKKKK SHHHHHH Thats all you will get Yeah, exactly what he said. Thanks for the replies. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't an odd underlying issue. |
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Post by EagleIII on Mar 21, 2021 22:22:15 GMT -5
Noticed that the ping is absent on one of my Browning Mark III SSB units when I tried side band. What does come thru the receiver speaker when I key up is a sound I can describe as a "car crash" Should there be a ping or is this nasty key up sound normal? I checked on another SSB radio receiver and it appears that the SSB key up sound the Browning produces is muted so maybe it's not as bad as it sounds to the listener on the other end? I'll have to try my other unit that has a "ping" delete switch to see if it does it on SSB. I noticed that in the mid 70's. I usually described the ping on SSB as the ping sounds as if the rig is under water. Let it make the warble / yodel warp speed sound, don't add a switch to a radio to defeat a ping that we all want to be there. That's almost blasphemy.  Don't kill the trade mark. The Birds really are not much for SSB talking. There are other rigs out there that is far better for SSB. |
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Post by Sandbagger on Mar 22, 2021 20:03:17 GMT -5
Noticed that the ping is absent on one of my Browning Mark III SSB units when I tried side band. What does come thru the receiver speaker when I key up is a sound I can describe as a "car crash" Should there be a ping or is this nasty key up sound normal? I checked on another SSB radio receiver and it appears that the SSB key up sound the Browning produces is muted so maybe it's not as bad as it sounds to the listener on the other end? I'll have to try my other unit that has a "ping" delete switch to see if it does it on SSB. I noticed that in the mid 70's. I usually described the ping on SSB as the ping sounds as if the rig is under water. Let it make the warble / yodel warp speed sound, don't add a switch to a radio to defeat a ping that we all want to be there. That's almost blasphemy. Don't kill the trade mark. The Birds really are not much for SSB talking. There are other rigs out there that is far better for SSB. The reason for the warbly, underwater ping sound on SSB is due to the nature of how the ping is created. The "ping" is actually a momentary feedback from the receiver, which is straight-up clean on AM. But on SSB, if your receiver is not dead nuts on frequency with the transmitter, the feedback will warble, the rate of warble increases with the difference in frequency. And seeing as how the Browning's BFO likes to drift around, staying dead nuts on frequency is extremely difficult to do. I never knew many people who ran Brownings on SSB for any length of time, it's simply too painful. The transmitters are pretty good, but the receiver just isn't fun to operate on SSB. |
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