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Post by No Streak on Feb 12, 2016 19:23:25 GMT -5
Does anyone use it?
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Post by No Streak on Feb 12, 2016 19:24:57 GMT -5
It looks like a neat app haven't use it yet but it looks usefull
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Post by Sandbagger on Feb 12, 2016 21:32:19 GMT -5
It looks like a neat app haven't use it yet but it looks usefull What is it and what does it do?
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Post by No Streak on Feb 12, 2016 22:31:15 GMT -5
It looks like a neat app haven't use it yet but it looks usefull What is it and what does it do? We it's kinda like a Nextel phone, you can have a group. Like say the CRR group and you log into it by smart phone or computer.There is YouTube videos about it looks cool. Turns your phone or tablet into a walkie talkie.
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Post by BBB on Feb 13, 2016 8:46:44 GMT -5
Sounds like a network, not a radio. I'm having a hard time understanding what all the hype is about with these digital networks trying to pose a radios in a Radio hobby. Why not just call it a Networking hobby.
I realize I'm griping, but I will stand firm on my opinion that all of these digital "Modes" "Nodes" and "Rooms" and other forms of digital communications over a network (and not over the air in an analogue fashion) are no more than a Lan, Wan, Man or Pan network.
Now that is out in the open I had a Nextel for many years and somewhat enjoyed the so called instant "two way" ability of the phone for a while. There some awkward instances where someone was contacted by accident or after hours and /or under the influence, but once you had a feel for who was willing to communicate with you or with whom you didn't want to communicate with, the Nextels were fun at times. It was kinda crappy when your boss was calling you saying "I know you can hear me, why aren't you at the job site yet?? Hello? Hello? beep beep."
They seem to go the way of the Dodo Bird probably due to the afore mentioned awkward instances. It seems Facebook and IM have taken over the Nextel world of instant communications, so I would be unsure how the app would go over. I think just having folk's cell phone numbers and texting MMS is the winner as far as sending photos and letting each other know that "hey we're on frequency XX.X" and "this is what my new radio looks like"
We have been doing MMS successfully around here lately. It is an unspoken rule though that you really should not actually call the person unless absolutely necessary so they may maintain the peace at home or at work. Unfortunately there are several folks for which I wish I had their cell number but don't want to ask for it over the air.
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Post by No Streak on Feb 13, 2016 10:58:11 GMT -5
Well it would be cool for guys that can't make it to the Classic Radio Roundup and maybe talk to some of the guys involved. Just thought I would just put it out there.
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Post by No Streak on Feb 13, 2016 11:39:22 GMT -5
Let me know if there is some interest in this maybe we can start a group up?
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Post by Sandbagger on Feb 13, 2016 18:09:14 GMT -5
Sounds like it might be an interesting application. Of course, I don't own a smart phone (and why would I when I prefer tube radios?), so it would be far more cumbersome for me. I tend to echo Sparky's sentiments with regard to common carrier networks trying to take the place of actual RF two way radios. There are a number of ham and CB radio simulator apps out there that actually do a fairly good job of pretending to be like long distance radio communications. With simulated signal fade, and other radio like impairments, it comes really close, but to me, it's still not the real thing. And considering that you have to pay a fee to use them (above and beyond common carrier fees), it's definitely not like our radio systems. But I can see the utility in something like that. For me the whole idea of being connected 24-7 is frightening. Bosses expect it, family expects it. I like ..... no make that I demand, the ability to unplug and isolate myself. The other issue I have is whether to text or call. On the one hand I can talk a heck of a lot faster than I can type, especially considering how I have to compose text messages on my flip phone, with a standard phone dial keyboard. On the other hand, I hate calling people on the phone because it always seems that I'm interrupting something when I do. Texts can be read and answered at their convenience, which is far less awkward. I realize that I've moved away from the actual Zello app and onto my own personal pet peeve with modern networks and the compulsory nature by which it's being forced upon us whether we like it or not. For that, I apologize......... The opinions expressed by this poster do not reflect the views of Classic Radio Roundup or its affiliates.......
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Post by No Streak on Feb 14, 2016 8:02:26 GMT -5
Sounds like it might be an interesting application. Of course, I don't own a smart phone (and why would I when I prefer tube radios?), so it would be far more cumbersome for me. I tend to echo Sparky's sentiments with regard to common carrier networks trying to take the place of actual RF two way radios. There are a number of ham and CB radio simulator apps out there that actually do a fairly good job of pretending to be like long distance radio communications. With simulated signal fade, and other radio like impairments, it comes really close, but to me, it's still not the real thing. And considering that you have to pay a fee to use them (above and beyond common carrier fees), it's definitely not like our radio systems. But I can see the utility in something like that. For me the whole idea of being connected 24-7 is frightening. Bosses expect it, family expects it. I like ..... no make that I demand, the ability to unplug and isolate myself. The other issue I have is whether to text or call. On the one hand I can talk a heck of a lot faster than I can type, especially considering how I have to compose text messages on my flip phone, with a standard phone dial keyboard. On the other hand, I hate calling people on the phone because it always seems that I'm interrupting something when I do. Texts can be read and answered at their convenience, which is far less awkward. I realize that I've moved away from the actual Zello app and onto my own personal pet peeve with modern networks and the compulsory nature by which it's being forced upon us whether we like it or not. For that, I apologize......... The opinions expressed by this poster do not reflect the views of Classic Radio Roundup or its affiliates....... I understand your guys fully, it is a log in app, some are linked to ham radio frequencies. And you can use it on a computer or smart phone. Funny it does have the same beep as the Nextel. I guess in some ways like what you have for Doc Hammer to get into the CRR. Some groups have strict rules that apply to there group if you get out of hand you get the boot. I'm still playing with it myself and just wanted to see if there was some interest to other people. As for the real radio I will never loose that love. Classic Radios is my back bone of my hobby. I mite have to look into getting my Amateur license even though I find them pretty dry on subjects that they talk about, and I truly have respect for anyone that has one. And they have are back in case something would go wrong as far in communications goes. But I think some people take the power given alittle to far and forget were they came from everybody crawls before they walk. I know I'm off the topic myself. But to point out technology has I think surpassed Ham radio in ways, it use to be a Ham operator could do things you could only dream of doing 30 years ago! And now we got Zello! lol
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Post by BBB on Feb 14, 2016 8:17:31 GMT -5
I definitely understand the interest in being able to join everyone on air during CRR. We have tried using a simple cell phone to relay a transmission, but the timing has to be good. You know, I key the mic and hold it up to the cell phone while you say hello and it goes out over the air, that kind of thing. Spitfire hand a relay station set up for a while and it allowed remote operators to join in, one at a time, over Skype thru his computer and then OTA via a modern HF rig. it was heavily dependent on a good internet connection on both sides. Of course it requires a transmitter of sufficient power and an antenna, that's a given. There was some recent talk about getting that system up and running again. While I knock the VoIP radio stuff, there actually may be "something" (a program, some new hardware) out there that would make it more simple to set up an 11 meter relay station. Maybe even Zello and a smart phone if you could interface a transceiver to it somehow. Brainstorm
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Post by BBB on Feb 14, 2016 8:20:30 GMT -5
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Post by Sandbagger on Feb 14, 2016 13:32:32 GMT -5
I definitely understand the interest in being able to join everyone on air during CRR. We have tried using a simple cell phone to relay a transmission, but the timing has to be good. You know, I key the mic and hold it up to the cell phone while you say hello and it goes out over the air, that kind of thing. Spitfire hand a relay station set up for a while and it allowed remote operators to join in, one at a time, over Skype thru his computer and then OTA via a modern HF rig. it was heavily dependent on a good internet connection on both sides. Of course it requires a transmitter of sufficient power and an antenna, that's a given. There was some recent talk about getting that system up and running again. While I knock the VoIP radio stuff, there actually may be "something" (a program, some new hardware) out there that would make it more simple to set up an 11 meter relay station. Maybe even Zello and a smart phone if you could interface a transceiver to it somehow. Brainstorm I would like to explore another method to get guys like Doc Hammer back to the local group again. It's really not a big deal to interface the audio in and out of a radio to a computer, and run a program like Skype to connect all over the world. The biggest problem, believe it or not, is rigging up the TX control. Most of these programs do not have a provision to activate a transmitter when they talk. You can VOX it to some degree, but VOX has its drawbacks. Having a program that activates a pin on a serial or parallel port when you hit the spacebar for TX would be the best solution. But there doesn't seem to be that many out there.
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