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Post by crazybob on Dec 8, 2009 9:45:42 GMT -5
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 8, 2009 11:17:40 GMT -5
It's a Galaxy DX-2517 with blue lights, for $50.00 more. All they did was change the faceplate name and add the blue lights. But I'm sure there will be tons of suckers waiting in line to buy one 
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 8, 2009 11:59:46 GMT -5
Sparkys CB Shack has the same radio, all ready to go, for $469.95 www.sparkyscbshack.com/Home.html
R&R Communications better get with the program, that's a $55.05 difference on the same radio 
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 8, 2009 12:27:24 GMT -5
How many different versions of the Galaxy Saturn/RCI 2980 style base radios do they need to make before even the densest neophyte realizes that they're nothing more than carbon copies of each other? I realize that they have to try and keep a step or two ahead of the FCC's "banned radio" list, but heck, at least try marketing something that looks a little different...... |
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Post by cbrown on Dec 8, 2009 14:05:39 GMT -5
I'd rather spend a few more $$$ and get the RCI 2995 DX.
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 8, 2009 22:06:58 GMT -5
I'd rather spend a few more $$$ and get the RCI 2995 DX. Or a really nice Yaesu FT 450. 100 watts PEP, all modes, HF and 6 meters, plus all sorts of filters and DSP. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 10:02:41 GMT -5
There is just no chance I would ever spend more than $200 on a radio like this. I aligned a Galaxy Saturn, and was stunned at the empty interior. It should almost be false advertising. You get this great looking exterior, and inside is basically a mobile CB board with a freq counter.
Dave is right. Get the FT-450. BTW, I put blue LEDs in that Saturn for the cost of about of less than $1.
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Post by cbrown on Dec 9, 2009 13:29:25 GMT -5
Or a really nice Yaesu FT 450. 100 watts PEP, all modes, HF and 6 meters, plus all sorts of filters and DSP. I agree! That's a bit more of a jump in price, but well worth the extra money for all of the features you do get. |
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Post by cbrown on Dec 9, 2009 13:31:18 GMT -5
There is just no chance I would ever spend more than $200 on a radio like this. I aligned a Galaxy Saturn, and was stunned at the empty interior. It should almost be false advertising. You get this great looking exterior, and inside is basically a mobile CB board with a freq counter. Sadly you are right, and a lot of the CB base station radios were nothing more than a mobile with a built in power supply in a fancy case. |
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 9, 2009 18:31:05 GMT -5
There is just no chance I would ever spend more than $200 on a radio like this. I aligned a Galaxy Saturn, and was stunned at the empty interior. It should almost be false advertising. You get this great looking exterior, and inside is basically a mobile CB board with a freq counter. Sadly you are right, and a lot of the CB base station radios were nothing more than a mobile with a built in power supply in a fancy case. And that's been true for most base radios since they abandoned tubes and went solid state. Practically all base radios are nothing more than a mobile board with a built-in power supply, a larger case with a few more controls and a larger meter. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's simply more cost efficient to make one board and adapt it in different style cases and models. |
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Post by crazybob on Dec 9, 2009 19:42:41 GMT -5
Maybe they could put this thing in a simulated wood-grain cabinet, add louvers, paint the face dark brown, gold lettering, gold knob, & slap a brass eagle on the speaker and call it a "Connex Eagle". It would at least look different from the same old black radios dating back almost 30 years. ..At 525.00, they should call this the "Conn-us Saturn".
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Post by doctor on Dec 10, 2009 11:02:20 GMT -5
Most cb base is as you guys say an empty box, just big bucks, just get a hf radio with all the bands, more money for the buck.. You can go to qth.com and under hf radios buy an Alinco dx70th for $350 used and it has all bands, and convert to 11 also or have someone do it for $60 and you have a 45 watt am radio and 100 watt ssb. and all frequencies. MODIFICATIONS.. home.comcast.net/~sllewd/DOCTOR/795 |
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Post by cbrown on Dec 10, 2009 14:20:46 GMT -5
Maybe they could put this thing in a simulated wood-grain cabinet, add louvers, paint the face dark brown, gold lettering, gold knob, & slap a brass eagle on the speaker and call it a "Connex Eagle". Add an electronic variable ping and I think you're golden!  |
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Dec 10, 2009 15:49:55 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree and spend that kind of money on a real HF ham type rig, Kenwood or others. But on the other hand I have real Brownings here that I've gone over board price wise and maintaining them is high dollar too.
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Post by crazybob on Dec 10, 2009 18:23:44 GMT -5
The thing about the Browning for me is Nostagia. It's American made by Americans. It has no circiut boards & is fairly simple to work on. It has a superior receive & transmit audio, ..PING! ..Tubes & crystals, baby.
If I had the money, time, & some basic skills, I would try to produce the "Connex (or whatever) Eagle. Yes, with variable ping. They would probably sell for around 750.00, like the Golden Eagle Mark III's did back in 1975. In today's money that would be..?
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Post by Tombstone (R.I.P.) on Dec 10, 2009 21:40:04 GMT -5
Yeah, crazybob, it's the nostalgia thing for me too but also as you say, it's the superior receive and transmit quality because of the tubes. Everyone tells me that my Brownings have the best sounding audio of all of my radios and that's with an unamplified G stand D-104.
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 11, 2009 8:19:50 GMT -5
Yeah, crazybob, it's the nostalgia thing for me too but also as you say, it's the superior receive and transmit quality because of the tubes. Everyone tells me that my Brownings have the best sounding audio of all of my radios and that's with an unamplified G stand D-104. Tombstone Count me in with the "nostalgia crowd". I run 35 - 45 year old radios because that's what I grew up with and had the most fun with, and I guess I'm just trying to recapture a piece of that. Plus you just can't beat the receive audio quality of a tube radio |
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Post by Sniper..Unit 305 on Dec 11, 2009 9:15:09 GMT -5
Yeah, crazybob, it's the nostalgia thing for me too but also as you say, it's the superior receive and transmit quality because of the tubes. Everyone tells me that my Brownings have the best sounding audio of all of my radios and that's with an unamplified G stand D-104. Tombstone Count me in with the "nostalgia crowd". I run 35 - 45 year old radios because that's what I grew up with and had the most fun with, and I guess I'm just trying to recapture a piece of that. Plus you just can't beat the receive audio quality of a tube radio I'm in agreement 100% with you all on the nostalgia and quality of these old rigs. I don't ever remember asking for an audio check on my Trams when they were new. The audio and transmit just could not be beat for the times when these works of art came out! Yes, I said works of art, along with being as far as I'm concerned the best darn radios as far as transmit and receive, the Trams and Browning Eagles were simply elegant to look at sitting there glowing away! People today are spending well over the cost of these radios new back in the day, and I guess I can see why some do what they do. I personally would not spend that much for a used Tram or Eagle, but then again, I have mine and spent well over a month and a half's take home pay when I bought it new back then! The strange thing back then was that my wife wanted the darn thing as much as I did and we saved and saved until we could afford to buy it. So I guess what I am trying to say here, is that I really cannot blame these folks that spend over $500 or more for a Tram or Eagle today because I too know that they are just trying to capture the past and have a quality piece of equipment that is as nice to look at as it is to use, and I don't believe that another great working or looking piece of equipment will pass this way again that has had as much impact on the CB craze as a Browning Golden Eagle or a Tram Diamond D201 has ever had. Sniper |
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 11, 2009 11:23:29 GMT -5
Count me in with the "nostalgia crowd". I run 35 - 45 year old radios because that's what I grew up with and had the most fun with, and I guess I'm just trying to recapture a piece of that. Plus you just can't beat the receive audio quality of a tube radio I'm in agreement 100% with you all on the nostalgia and quality of these old rigs. I don't ever remember asking for an audio check on my Trams when they were new. The audio and transmit just could not be beat for the times when these works of art came out! Yes, I said works of art, along with being as far as I'm concerned the best darn radios as far as transmit and receive, the Trams and Browning Eagles were simply elegant to look at sitting there glowing away! People today are spending well over the cost of these radios new back in the day, and I guess I can see why some do what they do. I personally would not spend that much for a used Tram or Eagle, but then again, I have mine and spent well over a month and a half's take home pay when I bought it new back then! The strange thing back then was that my wife wanted the darn thing as much as I did and we saved and saved until we could afford to buy it. So I guess what I am trying to say here, is that I really cannot blame these folks that spend over $500 or more for a Tram or Eagle today because I too know that they are just trying to capture the past and have a quality piece of equipment that is as nice to look at as it is to use, and I don't believe that another great working or looking piece of equipment will pass this way again that has had as much impact on the CB craze as a Browning Golden Eagle or a Tram Diamond D201 has ever had. Sniper I think it's also an age thing. The guys who have been in CB for over 30 years have a different view of things from the guys who may have only been in the hobby for 10 years or less. The guys who are relative newcomers weren't around when the Tram's and Brownings ruled the airwaves, so they don't hold them in the same regard. So for them, these Chinese-made Galaxy's and RCI's etc., are their "superbases" (Not to be confused with the G.E. Superbase, which was not all that "super"). You can see a similar parallel when it comes to classic cars. Younger guys are embracing small, hi-tech rice burners, while older guys shake their heads and declare that nothing will best the 60's era brute muscle cars. I couldn't come close to affording a Tram or a Browning (or even a new Lafayette SSB base for that matter) back in the mid 70's, so now that I can, I'm catching up on operating the best radios the 70's could produce, and reliving some memories in the process. |
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Post by cbrown on Dec 11, 2009 14:38:07 GMT -5
The thing about the Browning for me is Nostagia. It's American made by Americans. It has no circiut boards & is fairly simple to work on. It has a superior receive & transmit audio, ..PING! ..Tubes & crystals, baby. I love my Brownings, especially since I had them 'reconditioned'. I'd be hard pressed to let them go. I actually was thinking about selling them before I knew there were people out there that still worked on this rigs. But I've had them for so long they are a part of me. I'll probably just pass them on. If I had the money, time, & some basic skills, I would try to produce the "Connex (or whatever) Eagle. Yes, with variable ping. They would probably sell for around 750.00, like the Golden Eagle Mark III's did back in 1975. In today's money that would be..? Here are different ways to figure it: Current data is only available till 2008. In 2008, $750.00 from 1975 is worth: $2,999.21 using the Consumer Price Index $2,424.17 using the GDP deflator $3,475.38 using the value of consumer bundle $2,947.58 using the unskilled wage $4,690.53 using the nominal GDP per capita $6,613.57 using the relative share of GDP |
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Post by Sniper..Unit 305 on Dec 11, 2009 16:23:49 GMT -5
I'm in agreement 100% with you all on the nostalgia and quality of these old rigs. I don't ever remember asking for an audio check on my Trams when they were new. The audio and transmit just could not be beat for the times when these works of art came out! Yes, I said works of art, along with being as far as I'm concerned the best darn radios as far as transmit and receive, the Trams and Browning Eagles were simply elegant to look at sitting there glowing away! People today are spending well over the cost of these radios new back in the day, and I guess I can see why some do what they do. I personally would not spend that much for a used Tram or Eagle, but then again, I have mine and spent well over a month and a half's take home pay when I bought it new back then! The strange thing back then was that my wife wanted the darn thing as much as I did and we saved and saved until we could afford to buy it. So I guess what I am trying to say here, is that I really cannot blame these folks that spend over $500 or more for a Tram or Eagle today because I too know that they are just trying to capture the past and have a quality piece of equipment that is as nice to look at as it is to use, and I don't believe that another great working or looking piece of equipment will pass this way again that has had as much impact on the CB craze as a Browning Golden Eagle or a Tram Diamond D201 has ever had. Sniper I think it's also an age thing. The guys who have been in CB for over 30 years have a different view of things from the guys who may have only been in the hobby for 10 years or less. The guys who are relative newcomers weren't around when the Tram's and Brownings ruled the airwaves, so they don't hold them in the same regard. So for them, these Chinese-made Galaxy's and RCI's etc., are their "superbases" (Not to be confused with the G.E. Superbase, which was not all that "super"). You can see a similar parallel when it comes to classic cars. Younger guys are embracing small, hi-tech rice burners, while older guys shake their heads and declare that nothing will best the 60's era brute muscle cars. I couldn't come close to affording a Tram or a Browning (or even a new Lafayette SSB base for that matter) back in the mid 70's, so now that I can, I'm catching up on operating the best radios the 70's could produce, and reliving some memories in the process. Sandbagger I do believe that you have said it best and have definitely hit the nail on the head...Raw torque from a big block, and glowing tubes..doggone it I loved and miss those days !! |
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Post by zman on Jan 29, 2010 13:06:31 GMT -5
Another "black box" rig! Ugh! Will it ever end???!!?? Ill keep my old stuff i have. I have had a few of these so called "wonderful" freeband rigs and franky, i wasnt at all impressed. They pretty much are worthless on SSB. My 30+ year old President Madison will run rings around one on SSB.
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Post by zman on Jan 29, 2010 13:12:38 GMT -5
Echo, rodger beep, and all dem' thar' extree channels, are what impresses CBers these days.
i havent been around CB as long as some of you guys but ill take a Tram, Browning, or anything that was made 30 years ago over any of these garbage bases made today. Tubes rule!
As far as ham rigs go ill take a Drake Tr-4, Yaesu ft 101, Kenwood ts 520,530,820,830, Tempo One over any of the new rigs anyday!
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Post by zman on Jan 29, 2010 13:20:58 GMT -5
Count me in with the "nostalgia crowd". I run 35 - 45 year old radios because that's what I grew up with and had the most fun with, and I guess I'm just trying to recapture a piece of that. Plus you just can't beat the receive audio quality of a tube radio I'm in agreement 100% with you all on the nostalgia and quality of these old rigs. I don't ever remember asking for an audio check on my Trams when they were new. The audio and transmit just could not be beat for the times when these works of art came out! Yes, I said works of art, along with being as far as I'm concerned the best darn radios as far as transmit and receive, the Trams and Browning Eagles were simply elegant to look at sitting there glowing away! People today are spending well over the cost of these radios new back in the day, and I guess I can see why some do what they do. I personally would not spend that much for a used Tram or Eagle, but then again, I have mine and spent well over a month and a half's take home pay when I bought it new back then! The strange thing back then was that my wife wanted the darn thing as much as I did and we saved and saved until we could afford to buy it. So I guess what I am trying to say here, is that I really cannot blame these folks that spend over $500 or more for a Tram or Eagle today because I too know that they are just trying to capture the past and have a quality piece of equipment that is as nice to look at as it is to use, and I don't believe that another great working or looking piece of equipment will pass this way again that has had as much impact on the CB craze as a Browning Golden Eagle or a Tram Diamond D201 has ever had. Sniper man id love to have another Mk2,3 or a 4. I cannot afford to pay what they go for on Ebay though. One day. ill have naother though. |
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Post by cbrown on Feb 1, 2010 9:49:04 GMT -5
Another "black box" rig! Ugh! Will it ever end???!!?? Ill keep my old stuff i have. I have had a few of these so called "wonderful" freeband rigs and franky, i wasnt at all impressed. They pretty much are worthless on SSB. My 30+ year old President Madison will run rings around one on SSB. I'll agree up to a point. My Ranger 2995 DX works like a champ on SSB. |
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