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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 14, 2011 20:27:39 GMT -5
Hey Folks, Do You know of any 40 channel SSB "mobiles" that were made in the U.S.A back in the day.
I have a Palomar 2900 ( Jap ), RCI 2950 ( Asian ) a mint Sear Road Talker ( Jap ) and a mint Browning Baron ( also Jap )
I want to start collecting pristine "U.S" made gear but seams that once transistorized equipment in the 40 ch SB mode came into use it was all shipped over to Jap to be made over there.
I only talk on 38 LSB or on Ham SB, ( KF7ARG ) and so 23 SB or 40-AM is of no interest to me.
Motorola 500 & 555 perhaps ?
What say You ?
If they don't exist, then now problem I will just go into collecting tube gear, i like the sound of tube's better, I just want a mobile.
Thanks, Steve
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 14, 2011 21:14:44 GMT -5
Hey Folks, Do You know of any 40 channel SSB "mobiles" that were made in the U.S.A back in the day. I have a Palomar 2900 ( Jap ), RCI 2950 ( Asian ) a mint Sear Road Talker ( Jap ) and a mint Browning Baron ( also Jap ) I want to start collecting pristine "U.S" made gear but seams that once transistorized equipment in the 40 ch SB mode came into use it was all shipped over to Jap to be made over there. I only talk on 38 LSB or on Ham SB, ( KF7ARG ) and so 23 SB or 40-AM is of no interest to me. Motorola 500 & 555 perhaps ? What say You ? If they don't exist, then now problem I will just go into collecting tube gear, i like the sound of tube's better, I just want a mobile. Thanks, Steve Two brands come to mind; Stoner and CPI. Both USA made, 40 channels and SSB. But they are few and far between. Like you observed, once radios became solid state and got away from tubes and point wiring, USA manufacturing went the way of the dinosaur. Even big names like Tram moved their manufacturing to Mexico, although the Browning MK 4 was still US-made if I'm not mistaken. Only the high dollar stuff was US-made. |
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 14, 2011 21:55:43 GMT -5
Thank You for Your input,
I thought Stoner and CPI were both base radios ?
I see CPI's come up for sale regularly, but not Stoner, I would eat my dirt undies for a Stoner with the scope and all.
So You mean they each made a 12 V mobile ?
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 14, 2011 23:01:20 GMT -5
Thank You for Your input, I thought Stoner and CPI were both base radios ? I see CPI's come up for sale regularly, but not Stoner, I would eat my dirt undies for a Stoner with the scope and all. So You mean they each made a 12 V mobile ? CPI had both base and mobile units. The Stoner Pro 40 was the size of a mobile, but it might have had a built-in supply.... |
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Post by rifleman on Jan 14, 2011 23:46:48 GMT -5
There were not many 40 ch. AM radios that were made 100% in the USA, let alone SSB!! The Stoner PRO-40 was an 115 volt AC only base unit. It had on its rear terminal strip a +14 volt DC terminal, but that was OUTPUT for powering another radio or accessories. As far as any others, I beleive that the ONLY SSB 40 channel mobile radios that were 100% USA made were the CPI CP400's. AND they were GREAT radios !! The CPI CP2000 could be run on 115 / 12 volts, but it was a BIG base unit. Even the Johnson 40 ch. SSB units were made in Japan. Attachments:
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Post by rifleman on Jan 15, 2011 1:11:13 GMT -5
Stoner PRO-40 Front Attachments:
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Post by rifleman on Jan 15, 2011 1:13:14 GMT -5
CPI CP400 Front Attachments:
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Post by rifleman on Jan 15, 2011 1:15:41 GMT -5
CPI CP400 Back. Attachments:
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 15, 2011 3:23:18 GMT -5
Thanks Guy's, Looks like I am going to search plant earth for a CPI mobile .
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 15, 2011 10:31:03 GMT -5
There were not many 40 ch. AM radios that were made 100% in the USA, let alone SSB!! The Stoner PRO-40 was an 115 volt AC only base unit. It had on its rear terminal strip a +14 volt DC terminal, but that was OUTPUT for powering another radio or accessories. As far as any others, I beleive that the ONLY SSB 40 channel mobile radios that were 100% USA made were the CPI CP400's. AND they were GREAT radios !! The CPI CP2000 could be run on 115 / 12 volts, but it was a BIG base unit. Even the Johnson 40 ch. SSB units were made in Japan. Thanks for clarifying that. I couldn't remember if the Stoner was AC/DC or strictly AC. I've never had the pleaseure of ever playing with a Stoner, nor did I even know anyone in the local area who had one. CPI's were somewhat popular, although they tended to be more expensive than comparable foreign-made radios. After the 40 channel radios came out was when the prices of CB's started dropping in relation to inflation. That's the big reason why you didn't see much from the US. It's hard to justify an $800 price tag when top of the line Asian radios could be had for half that. But that's the story of US manufacturing in general. Sad but true..... |
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Post by rifleman on Jan 15, 2011 13:19:14 GMT -5
I have owned quite a few Stoners and CPI's over the years....
As far as the CPI mobiles....
CP180 = 18 channel (For Austrailia)
CP200 = 23 channel
CP400 = 40 channel
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Post by rifleman on Jan 24, 2011 20:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by cbrown on Jan 25, 2011 10:04:01 GMT -5
Not a bad price, either. I'd like to see more photos before I'd even consider buying, though.
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Post by rifleman on Jan 25, 2011 16:39:22 GMT -5
Oh yea....
With some good interior photos, you can easly tell if the radio has been modified.
Also, there are 5 red LEDs mounted on the interior boards that can tell you how each of the power supply sections are working.
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Post by rifleman on Jan 25, 2011 16:54:43 GMT -5
Interior View Of One Of Mine.... Attachments:
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Post by cbrown on Jan 26, 2011 12:21:51 GMT -5
Now up to $200.
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 26, 2011 20:06:17 GMT -5
Speaking Of American CB's,
Update: I just made a deal for a clean & working CPI CP2000 station with the multi function console ad on, plus the WM 1000 / 3 meter's unit, all three in nice condition , plus another non working CP2000 and 3 meter unit plus the little freq counter, now if I could live long enough to gather one of each of the other ad-on's aka talk power, the rare amp etc.... that would be nice.
I was fishing for a CPI 400 Mobile and came up with a base.
So this will be my 1st American made SSB station, should be fun.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 27, 2011 11:26:02 GMT -5
Speaking Of American CB's, Update: I just made a deal for a clean & working CPI CP2000 station with the multi function console ad on, plus the WM 1000 / 3 meter's unit, all three in nice condition , plus another non working CP2000 and 3 meter unit plus the little freq counter, now if I could live long enough to gather one of each of the other ad-on's aka talk power, the rare amp etc.... that would be nice. I was fishing for a CPI 400 Mobile and came up with a base. So this will be my 1st American made SSB station, should be fun. If you are an avid SSB user, the CPI will be impressive. Great sounding and a really nice receiver. On AM, the transmit audio is a little tricky to balance between carrier level and max modulation. If set correctly, it will sound decent. If not, it can sound mushy or low. The best mic, that I've found, to run on it is a Turner Super Sidekick. |
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Post by rifleman on Jan 27, 2011 12:51:15 GMT -5
SteveInOregon... You forgot the RP-1A Receive Pre Amp, and the FL-1 TVI Filter !!! LOL !! ... Finding everything WILL drive you crazy !!! The ONLY piece of CPI equipment I have left is a CPI desk mike. It needs to be cleaned, masked off and repainted. I would let it go for CHEEP !!! If you are interested in it, drop me a message. Also, I sold some of my CPI stuff to a VERY knowledgeable collector. I will try to find his email for you. He may be able to help you with your searches and any problems you have with the equipment. Yours, Ron Attachments:
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 29, 2011 13:15:51 GMT -5
Speaking Of American CB's, Update: I just made a deal for a clean & working CPI CP2000 station with the multi function console ad on, plus the WM 1000 / 3 meter's unit, all three in nice condition , plus another non working CP2000 and 3 meter unit plus the little freq counter, now if I could live long enough to gather one of each of the other ad-on's aka talk power, the rare amp etc.... that would be nice. I was fishing for a CPI 400 Mobile and came up with a base. So this will be my 1st American made SSB station, should be fun. If you are an avid SSB user, the CPI will be impressive. Great sounding and a really nice receiver. On AM, the transmit audio is a little tricky to balance between carrier level and max modulation. If set correctly, it will sound decent. If not, it can sound mushy or low. The best mic, that I've found, to run on it is a Turner Super Sidekick. Ya I am SB only, and yes I am for sure going to get a CPI 400 Mobile by hook or by crook. regards |
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 29, 2011 13:17:04 GMT -5
I know the owner of this radio "winks" |
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Post by SteveInOregon on Jan 29, 2011 13:30:13 GMT -5
SteveInOregon... You forgot the RP-1A Receive Pre Amp, and the FL-1 TVI Filter !!! LOL !! ... Finding everything WILL drive you crazy !!! The ONLY piece of CPI equipment I have left is a CPI desk mike. It needs to be cleaned, masked off and repainted. I would let it go for CHEEP !!! If you are interested in it, drop me a message. Also, I sold some of my CPI stuff to a VERY knowledgeable collector. I will try to find his email for you. He may be able to help you with your searches and any problems you have with the equipment. Yours, Ron Thanks for adding input to this thread Ron. The biggest issue I have with old radio equip (equip that can be fixed ) is the cosmetics, why , well take You CPI branded mic for example. I can fix the electrical usability, but I have no way to fix the peeled off or rubbed out / worn off CPI logo. So I end up with a Shure mic ( I think that is a 444 mic? ) with no legible PCI logo on it I am running into road blocks, as I already have an early model Palomar 40CH SB mobile ( farmed out to Toshiba ) that works just fine, "but" the lettering & logo has been half way rubbed out and I have posted "help" how to get the face paint and small lettering back to factory new to no avail. The only response I get is; "go find a silk screen co that does metal" , so there seams to be no one I can find ( yet) in the CB / Ham world who does this except for some guy I found who makes nice plastic original looking "stickers" that go over the face of a few models of high end old boat anchor HF units, but no one who can or does do it on any old generic radio for a " one off " application. And ya, I wont go crazy I will just stay on the hunt and not let this hobbie obsess me , gota go I have a road bicycle and a rare sunny day in Oregon calling me ( SSB HT in strapped to my belt, lol ) regards |
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Post by cbrown on Jan 31, 2011 9:45:58 GMT -5
I know the owner of this radio "winks" If it's you, I hope you make the sale. However, just to let you know in case it doesn't: Any serious radio collector or buyer is not going to spend that kind of $$$ on a radio that shows only one photo, with no photos of the back and interior of the transceiver. Stoner's are a great rig, but like any rig you always run the risk of running into a hack job. I myself would be hard pressed to bid more then $200 and take a chance. Not saying this to be cruel, just wanted to let you know. |
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Post by SteveInOregon on Feb 26, 2011 20:07:47 GMT -5
I know the owner of this radio "winks" If it's you, I hope you make the sale. However, just to let you know in case it doesn't: Any serious radio collector or buyer is not going to spend that kind of $$$ on a radio that shows only one photo, with no photos of the back and interior of the transceiver. Stoner's are a great rig, but like any rig you always run the risk of running into a hack job. I myself would be hard pressed to bid more then $200 and take a chance. Not saying this to be cruel, just wanted to let you know. LOL, I dont know about the Stoner you mentioned, but check this out, so a few months after You posted this kind warning, I bought a "Hack Job" ( see Stoner with shut down problems ) thread here, lol. Stoners are a LOT harder to find than CPI, and Stoner accessories are also a LOT harder to find than CPI accessories . A $200 for Stoner will never happen on the open market. Dead they sell for $375, as in burned finals, bad fransformer. Clean they sell for $500, and any one below serial # 200 can go for a LOT more. From what I hear Stoner #7 sold for $1000 in 09. You can pay $500 or more just for the accessory monitor scope alone !!!, that is juz the way it izzzzz nowdays. |
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Post by cbrown on Feb 28, 2011 9:59:56 GMT -5
Maybe you missed the reasoning of my post (from January 29th, 2011 BTW). I never said a Stoner was worth $200. I said the Stoner on Ebay showing just a front photo is the radio I'd be hard pressed to bid more than $200 on since they aren't showing you anything but just the front.
I don't know if this will shock you, but there are one or two sellers on Ebay that will stretch the truth about the items they are selling.
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Post by rifleman on Feb 28, 2011 15:33:02 GMT -5
I don't know if this will shock you, but there are one or two sellers on Ebay that will stretch the truth about the items they are selling. Attachments:
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Post by rifleman on Feb 28, 2011 15:39:27 GMT -5
I try not to buy ANYTHING off of Ebay untill I analyze the METER READINGS first.Attachments:
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Post by SteveInOregon on Feb 28, 2011 19:39:49 GMT -5
Maybe you missed the reasoning of my post (from January 29th, 2011 BTW). I never said a Stoner was worth $200. I said the Stoner on Ebay showing just a front photo is the radio I'd be hard pressed to bid more than $200 on since they aren't showing you anything but just the front. I don't know if this will shock you, but there are one or two sellers on Ebay that will stretch the truth about the items they are selling. Gotcha ;D |
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