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Post by SteveInOregon on Feb 28, 2011 22:28:48 GMT -5
Check this out guy's, there is 1977 D201 (( in the box )) for sale on Ebay, "but" it shows the early edition emblem on the radio , yet the box says 1977 "Assembled In Mexico".
You Tram experts do you know what gives with this ? does the box match the radio ?
I also noticed the 2 support bars under the hood don't have a "Warring High Voltage" type of sticker on them ?
Its on Ebay, it just got listed , search for Tram in the Cb-Ham section. it will show up as you scroll half way down
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Post by Sandbagger on Feb 28, 2011 22:34:50 GMT -5
Check this out guy's, there is 1977 D201 (( in the box )) for sale on Ebay, "but" it shows the early edition emblem on the radio , yet the box says 1977 "Assembled In Mexico". You Tram experts do you know what gives with this ? does the box match the radio ? Its on Ebay, it just got listed , search for Tram in the Cb-Ham section. it will show up as you scroll half way down Well, for one thing, as of January 1st 1977, 23 channel radios were no longer made and all new radios had to be 40 channel. Leftover stock of 23's were allowed to be sold, but no 23 channel radio should have been manufactured in 1977. The last Tram 23 channel D201 should have a date stamp no later than 1976. Now if it's a D201A (40 channel) then that's a different story. So I would say the box and radio do not match, and it also likely that the radio is not NIB.......
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Post by rifleman on Feb 28, 2011 23:38:04 GMT -5
Steve, you must mean this one... cgi.ebay.com/TRAM-D201-Original-Box-Must-See-/370488867516?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5642db7abcI agree with Sandbagger... AND I call B.S. !!! The radio is a HAND WIRED D201, which was made years before they were assembled in Mexico. They did not have stickers on the support bars or the power transformer. (The box is not close to being original for that radio, and I am sure he knows it !!) The top cover looks repainted. Different than stock feet. Looks like the corners of the wood has been repaired. The chassis has been polished. They did not come fron the factory looking that shiny !! The guy who is listing it sells CB parts, amplifiers, etc... He knows it is a RESTORED radio..... And I am sure he knows exactly how it operates..... If it runs good, it is a $400 radio...... MAX !! Attachments:
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Post by cbrown on Mar 1, 2011 12:12:10 GMT -5
I never trust "listing it for a friend" listings anyway.
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Post by SteveInOregon on Mar 1, 2011 12:57:24 GMT -5
I though so I just had to see what You guys who know Trams inside and out thought.
Liars do this "selling for a friend", or "my dad just died i don't know anything about this stuff", or here is the most used phony line " I bought it in an estate sale and have no way to test it".
What is amazing is people who do not consider themselves to be liars do a modified version of the same thing by purposefully being ignorant .
Like the law says "ignorance is not a defense", and so Google no longer allows us to be ignorant of facts, dates, times, models, manufacture, etc...etc.... to either lie , or to buy a lie.
Looks like the ad was pulled , I don't remember if it had a "buy it now" options and then perhaps some shuck bought a lie
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Post by rifleman on Mar 1, 2011 17:21:20 GMT -5
I never trust "listing it for a friend" listings anyway. Yea..... When I put my Mark IV up on Ebay, I started the description with "OK guys, this radio IS NOT my third cousin's radio, who put it away 20 years ago. OR I have no antenna to test it. OR I picked this up at an estate sale, and I know nothing about it. This is a 100% stock, WORKING, excellent shape Browning Mark IV" Then I went into a 2 page description on everything (good and bad) about it, all the testing I did on it, and put up 12 photos of it inside and out. I got $650 (without a mic) from a Browning collector who kept on thanking me over and over for being so truthfull about it. (He had been burned several times before)
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Post by cbrown on Mar 2, 2011 10:21:37 GMT -5
An honest seller on Ebay? It's actually nice to see. ;D
I rarely sell on Ebay, but like you I give a detailed description and show a lot of photos so people can judge for themselves.
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Post by rifleman on Mar 2, 2011 16:37:27 GMT -5
I would say that 90% + of the sellers on Ebay are honest...
But it is just human nature that you only remember the ones that try to Sc#@w you !!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 18:29:53 GMT -5
I do this all the time. There is nothing wrong with it. Pictures and description are the important things.
The thing I don't understand, is how many fools there are buying. For example, "I picked this up at an estate sale, and don't know anything about it, or how to test it."
So I asked the question, "Then why did you spend money at an estate sale, on something that you know nothing about, or how to test it?"
Why, because they know exactly what they are buying. And it is likely not working right, so they are trying to see if you take a gamble. And you know what, most idiots do!
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Post by cbrown on Mar 3, 2011 10:32:40 GMT -5
I just avoid Ebay for high end radio equipment. I'm sure I miss good deals, but I also avoid nightmares too.
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Post by SteveInOregon on Mar 4, 2011 18:31:24 GMT -5
It's seems that phony Tram is still on Ebay and the bid is up to $500.
The guy has a reserve and so he mite screw himself by getting to greedy
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