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Post by focflscott on Jun 27, 2012 8:28:01 GMT -5
Hello everyone! Obviously this is my first post, and I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about this stuff. The reason for me creating this account and starting a thread is this:
My grandmother just gave me my grandfather's old Browning Golden Eagle to sell and I figured the best way for me to find out exactly what we have here is to make friends with the experts. So, I know that this is a Browning Golden Eagle of some kind, but I know very little other than that. I will try to post some pics if I can figure that out, but I will do my best to describe it. The two pieces are different sizes, one being about twice as wide as the other.
The smaller unit has a large knob that changes channels from 1-23 as well as a blank spot? It has the input for the microphone, a knob that has SWR CAL above and PWR ON.OFF below, a three way switch knob that has MOD FWD REF above and METER below, a volume knob, a two way slider switch that has CB and PA. There is also an "on air" light, a button labled "spot" and an RF Meter?
The larger unit has the tweedish square on the left with the eagle logo and on the right it has a large knob that has the channel numbers on it, but it does not "click" like the larger knob on the smaller unit, it also has a 3 position slide switch with EXT INT ALL, a knob with FINE above, a knob that works as a "push/pull" switch with SQUELCH above and ANL PUSH ON below, a knob with VOLUME above and PWR ON OFF below, a knob that is a two position switch with MAN and FIX above and FUNCTION below, a knob that is a three position switch that has DIS NOR LOC.
I hope that this is descriptive enough and maybe the pics will help if I can get them up.
There is also a microphone that is a Astatic model D-104 and a speaker to connect to the units so that you can hear it.
If anyone can educate me on this stuff and possibly give me an idea of what I should expect to get out of it, I would greatly appreciate it! Of course, if anyone on here is interested in it, just let me know. Thanks to everyone in advance for their help!
EDIT: Also, if this is in the wrong place, please don't hesitate to move it and/or show me the error of my ways!
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Post by focflscott on Jun 27, 2012 8:33:20 GMT -5
ok i have some pics saved on the computer, but cannot figure out how to post them...anyone? Thanks again!
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Post by focflscott on Jun 27, 2012 8:42:22 GMT -5
I also just noticed what appears to be serial numbers on the two units:
smaller unit: 582 XXX
larger unit: 482 XXX
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Post by Sandbagger on Jun 27, 2012 12:54:21 GMT -5
Hello everyone! Obviously this is my first post, and I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about this stuff. The reason for me creating this account and starting a thread is this: My grandmother just gave me my grandfather's old Browning Golden Eagle to sell and I figured the best way for me to find out exactly what we have here is to make friends with the experts. So, I know that this is a Browning Golden Eagle of some kind, but I know very little other than that. I will try to post some pics if I can figure that out, but I will do my best to describe it. The two pieces are different sizes, one being about twice as wide as the other. The smaller unit has a large knob that changes channels from 1-23 as well as a blank spot? It has the input for the microphone, a knob that has SWR CAL above and PWR ON.OFF below, a three way switch knob that has MOD FWD REF above and METER below, a volume knob, a two way slider switch that has CB and PA. There is also an "on air" light, a button labled "spot" and an RF Meter? The larger unit has the tweedish square on the left with the eagle logo and on the right it has a large knob that has the channel numbers on it, but it does not "click" like the larger knob on the smaller unit, it also has a 3 position slide switch with EXT INT ALL, a knob with FINE above, a knob that works as a "push/pull" switch with SQUELCH above and ANL PUSH ON below, a knob with VOLUME above and PWR ON OFF below, a knob that is a two position switch with MAN and FIX above and FUNCTION below, a knob that is a three position switch that has DIS NOR LOC. I hope that this is descriptive enough and maybe the pics will help if I can get them up. There is also a microphone that is a Astatic model D-104 and a speaker to connect to the units so that you can hear it. If anyone can educate me on this stuff and possibly give me an idea of what I should expect to get out of it, I would greatly appreciate it! Of course, if anyone on here is interested in it, just let me know. Thanks to everyone in advance for their help! EDIT: Also, if this is in the wrong place, please don't hesitate to move it and/or show me the error of my ways! From the description, it sounds like a MKII, with the AM transmitter. Pictures would certainly confirm that. But identifying the radio is only step one. Assuming you're looking to sell it, rather than restore and operate it (reconsider! ;D ) the amount of cash you ultimately get for it will depend on whether it works and how clean it is. |
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Post by focflscott on Jun 27, 2012 13:11:15 GMT -5
Hello everyone! Obviously this is my first post, and I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about this stuff. The reason for me creating this account and starting a thread is this: My grandmother just gave me my grandfather's old Browning Golden Eagle to sell and I figured the best way for me to find out exactly what we have here is to make friends with the experts. So, I know that this is a Browning Golden Eagle of some kind, but I know very little other than that. I will try to post some pics if I can figure that out, but I will do my best to describe it. The two pieces are different sizes, one being about twice as wide as the other. The smaller unit has a large knob that changes channels from 1-23 as well as a blank spot? It has the input for the microphone, a knob that has SWR CAL above and PWR ON.OFF below, a three way switch knob that has MOD FWD REF above and METER below, a volume knob, a two way slider switch that has CB and PA. There is also an "on air" light, a button labled "spot" and an RF Meter? The larger unit has the tweedish square on the left with the eagle logo and on the right it has a large knob that has the channel numbers on it, but it does not "click" like the larger knob on the smaller unit, it also has a 3 position slide switch with EXT INT ALL, a knob with FINE above, a knob that works as a "push/pull" switch with SQUELCH above and ANL PUSH ON below, a knob with VOLUME above and PWR ON OFF below, a knob that is a two position switch with MAN and FIX above and FUNCTION below, a knob that is a three position switch that has DIS NOR LOC. I hope that this is descriptive enough and maybe the pics will help if I can get them up. There is also a microphone that is a Astatic model D-104 and a speaker to connect to the units so that you can hear it. If anyone can educate me on this stuff and possibly give me an idea of what I should expect to get out of it, I would greatly appreciate it! Of course, if anyone on here is interested in it, just let me know. Thanks to everyone in advance for their help! EDIT: Also, if this is in the wrong place, please don't hesitate to move it and/or show me the error of my ways! From the description, it sounds like a MKII, with the AM transmitter. Pictures would certainly confirm that. But identifying the radio is only step one. Assuming you're looking to sell it, rather than restore and operate it (reconsider! ;D ) the amount of cash you ultimately get for it will depend on whether it works and how clean it is. Hey, thanks for the reply! That is kinda what I was thinking strictly based on pictures I was able to find via google. I really don't think I have any interest in actually using it myself, and I haven't tested it yet, but everything my grandfather had was in pristine condition, so if I had to guess, I'd say it still works. Is there anything else I would need to test it? For instance, does it require an antenna? |
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Post by Sandbagger on Jun 27, 2012 13:32:28 GMT -5
From the description, it sounds like a MKII, with the AM transmitter. Pictures would certainly confirm that. But identifying the radio is only step one. Assuming you're looking to sell it, rather than restore and operate it (reconsider! ;D ) the amount of cash you ultimately get for it will depend on whether it works and how clean it is. Hey, thanks for the reply! That is kinda what I was thinking strictly based on pictures I was able to find via google. I really don't think I have any interest in actually using it myself, and I haven't tested it yet, but everything my grandfather had was in pristine condition, so if I had to guess, I'd say it still works. Is there anything else I would need to test it? For instance, does it require an antenna? Well, the thing about old radio is that they "age" even if they sit unused for years. There are components inside (mostly electrolytic capacitors) that dry out and eventually fail. It's analogous to finding a 40 year old car under a tarp in a barn. While it may be in great shape cosmetically, there will be things like seals, tires, hoses etc, that will have disintegrated over the years, even though they were not in use. One thing that is VERY important, is not to simply plug-in and turn on a radio that has sat so long. You need to bring it up slowly with a variable transformer, known as a VARIAC. That way, sudden inrush current won't shock those old parts into failure. Even if you do that, it's very likely that the electrolytic caps (at the very least) will have to be replaced it you want it to work as it did when new. As for testing it, you will need an antenna to see if the receiver works, and whether you can transmit to other people. If you have access to a signal generator, wattmeter, and a dummy load, that could also be used in leau of the antenna to determine if it's working as it should. You can get a general idea what the radio is worth by checking completed sales on E-Bay. |
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Post by focflscott on Jun 27, 2012 13:53:03 GMT -5
Oh wow, I should have known it wouldn't be that easy. So more than likely, I'm gonna have to take it to a shop to have these things done? I'll see if I can find some completed sales on ebay to get an idea on value to see if I even want to spend the time to do this stuff. Thanks again for your help.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Jun 27, 2012 14:49:00 GMT -5
Oh wow, I should have known it wouldn't be that easy. So more than likely, I'm gonna have to take it to a shop to have these things done? I'll see if I can find some completed sales on ebay to get an idea on value to see if I even want to spend the time to do this stuff. Thanks again for your help.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jun 28, 2012 6:48:45 GMT -5
Oh wow, I should have known it wouldn't be that easy. So more than likely, I'm gonna have to take it to a shop to have these things done? I'll see if I can find some completed sales on ebay to get an idea on value to see if I even want to spend the time to do this stuff. Thanks again for your help. Or, you can simply sell it on E-Bay as "not tested". If the rig is in great cosmetic condition, someone will probably snag it up anyway. Most of these rigs need to go through the 100,000 mile overhaul, so when someone buys a rig off of E-Bay, they pretty much figure that they're going to have to invest another $200 -$300 to have it rebuilt. So unless you wanted to keep it for your own use, I wouldn't invest the money just for resale. You'll still get a decent amount for it. |
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Post by cbrown on Jun 28, 2012 8:55:25 GMT -5
Or you could donate it to the Grumpy Browning Collection Fund! ;D
I think the CBrown Tube Radio Collection might be a better venue for that radio...  Focflscott, as Sandbagger said if you intent is to sell them, don't bother getting them fixed up just sell them AS IS. I recently had both my Mark III and Mark IVA in for their "1,000,000 mile overhaul" and it wasn't cheap. But they are are radios I've had since I was a young lad, and it was worth every penny I spent to get them back into pristine shape. Oh and please don't plug them in! |
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Post by focflscott on Jun 28, 2012 15:26:17 GMT -5
Don't worry, I WILL NOT plug them in. ;D
It sounds like I will do as you all say and try to sell it as-is untested. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I thank you all for telling me what I needed to hear!
One more thing, is the microphone worth anything? Or should I basically give it away with the set?
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Post by 2600 on Jun 29, 2012 0:40:55 GMT -5
The mike is a toss-up. If it's been stored in the desert, where humidity never exceeds 40%, it may be okay. If it's been on the Mississippi Gulf coast for 30 or 40 yerars, there's a very good chance that the element inside the lollipop head will have gone bad. The heart of that element is a tiny sliver of Rochell Salt, a compound that slowly absorbs moisture from its surroundings and becomes degraded.
If you can't test it for this, the buyer should understand that part of his gamble. A mike with a weak head is worth less to an end-user than a good one.
The substitutes you see sold for this "cartridge" as they call it will tend to work okay with an amplified D-104. Easy to tell the straight version from the amplified one, since there is a metal clip for a 9-Volt battery just under the bottom cover to run the amplifier. All of these modern substitute cartridges are just weaker. The amplifier in the "power" version of a D-104 will make up for this just fine. Just turn the gain adjustment a little higher.
But your radio is meant to be uaed with the "straight", or non-amplified version of the D-104. This means trouble, since a weak mike cartridge now feeds directly into the radio's mike amplifier, you'll find you have to talk very close into it to be heard.
Good call to not plug up the radio. I compare it to a motor that hasn't been run in 25 years. There are precautions you can take before trying to make it run. Or you might just pour in some oil, hook up a fresh battery and try it. If you spin a bearing, that's how it goes.
Same deal with the radio. A pro will not just flip on the power switch. The common slang for this is "the smoke test". Much safer to to take precautions. I shoot for smokeless smoke tests.
Prices for a radio that's "guaranteed", or "overhauled" are higher. Whoever spent the money to turn an "untested" into an "ovehauled" radio wants that money back.
Good luck. Ebay is a real roullette wheel. For every tale of success and riches there are dozens of losing bets.
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Post by focflscott on Jul 14, 2012 15:12:03 GMT -5
Hey everyone, thanks again for all of the help. I am certainly aware of eBay and it's randomness, especially when it comes to selling. I was hoping to avoid eBay and deal locally so I didn't have to worry about shipping costs. I have been burned on eBay before because their "shipping cost estimator" underestimated what it actually cost me to ship the item. But, as long as someone is willing to pay actual shipping costs, I will sell to whomever wants it more. |
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Post by focflscott on Jul 14, 2012 15:29:40 GMT -5
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Post by dgtr43 on Jul 15, 2012 20:24:49 GMT -5
Please send a pm on the price you are asking for this radio.
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Post by crazybob on Jul 27, 2012 4:54:46 GMT -5
That's a "Mark One" They made them in 1967-68. some xmitters had an "on air" light. Some had a "Spot". Some receivers had a NOR Distant Knob, & had a RF gain. They all had a Collins 455 KC Mechanical filter. I paid 250.00 for the same set up around 1979.
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Post by focflscott on Aug 22, 2012 7:56:23 GMT -5
due to my procrastination, I still have this radio if anyone is interested, make me an offer...
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Post by KneeBiter on Aug 22, 2012 19:47:25 GMT -5
I already have and you did not get back to me
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