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Post by **GRUMPY** on Jan 27, 2013 17:28:28 GMT -5
I have used 213 for a long time, but I am thinking of trying something different!
Going to have an antenna service come this spring and install a new Ground Plane for me. While they are at it I am going to have them replace the coax on my Gizmotchy, and new run for the Ground Plane.
So here is what I am looking at....
213
RG8U
9913
LMR-400
Bury-Flex
50 foot run for the Ground Plane and Dual 75 foot runs for the Gizmotchy with real amphenol ends (not the cheap junk).
I don't use much power, around 200 watts or less.
What are your recommendations, and why?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 18:08:34 GMT -5
Grumpster,
I have Bury-flex and after nearly 7years, no sign of the jacket weakening. I would highly recommend it.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Jan 27, 2013 22:00:18 GMT -5
Grumpster, I have Bury-flex and after nearly 7years, no sign of the jacket weakening. I would highly recommend it. It's the way I am leaning!
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Post by cbrown on Jan 28, 2013 9:51:21 GMT -5
Bury-Flex is good if you have a lot of flexing, or you can use LMR-400UF. On 11M the coax isn't going to make that much of a difference in signal as long as you use a good quality coax and connector.
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Post by qbeams12 on Feb 2, 2013 14:17:04 GMT -5
LMR-400 with amphenol Teflon connectors all the way around !!! Or 1/2 or 7/8 heliax !!
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Post by BBB on Feb 8, 2013 15:44:37 GMT -5
I use LMR 400 to the antenna and LMR 400 Flex for jumpers in the shack. Up side: Quality double shielded cable with low signal loss, high power handling and you can bury it. PL connectors attach without the need for a reducer. Downside: Handling it is a bit like wrestling an alligator, but I happen to like wires. Here is a supplier of coax I use with good prices no matter what you choose: www.jefatech.com/
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Post by Night Ranger on Feb 8, 2013 15:45:56 GMT -5
I use LMR 400 to the antenna and LMR 400 Flex for jumpers in the shack. Up side: Quality double shielded cable with low signal loss, high power handling and you can bury it. PL connectors attach without the need for a reducer. Downside: Handling it is a bit like wrestling an alligator, but I happen to like wires. Here is a supplier of coax I use with good prices no matter what you choose: www.jefatech.com/Ditto on the LMR-400. Night Ranger
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Feb 8, 2013 17:49:58 GMT -5
I think that I made up my mind and am going with the Davis RF Bury-Flex www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php which I am going to buy here www.amateurradiosupplies.com/Buryflex-s/145.htm
I just can't justify paying $66.95 for LMR 400 or $82.99 for LMR 400 Ultra Flex for 50 feet. I can get the Bury-Flex for $54.99 for 50 feet. I will have them put on the Genuine Amphenol Ends on it which will cost me a few bucks more, but I would do that for whichever coax I would get. Plus buying it at Amateur Radio Supply the shipping is only $6.99, or free with a $150.00 order!
Maybe if I talked on the radio more and used more power like you guys I might of thought about the LMR 400, but I mainly listen and most of the time I seldom go over 100 watts!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 20:58:49 GMT -5
I have both. I will take the Bury-Flex any day. LMR is a stiff as a 2x4
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Post by Sandbagger on Feb 8, 2013 22:15:41 GMT -5
I think that I made up my mind and am going with the Davis RF Bury-Flex www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php which I am going to buy here www.amateurradiosupplies.com/Buryflex-s/145.htm
I just can't justify paying $66.95 for LMR 400 or $82.99 for LMR 400 Ultra Flex for 50 feet. I can get the Bury-Flex for $54.99 for 50 feet. I will have them put on the Genuine Amphenol Ends on it which will cost me a few bucks more, but I would do that for whichever coax I would get. Plus buying it at Amateur Radio Supply the shipping is only $6.99, or free with a $150.00 order!
Maybe if I talked on the radio more and used more power like you guys I might of thought about the LMR 400, but I mainly listen and most of the time I seldom go over 100 watts! At 27 Mhz AND at 50', anything fancier than RG-213 is overkill. There is not enough of a difference in loss to justify the extra cost. I wouldn't run LMR 400 for anything lower than VHF frequencies, unless I was like Pete, and had to run 300' of feedline to get to my antenna.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Feb 8, 2013 22:41:39 GMT -5
I need (2) 75 foot sections also for the beam, so I figured I might as well just do everything the same since it's going on a new antenna. There is only $6.00 difference between 213 and Bury-Flex for 50 feet.
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Post by qbeams12 on Feb 9, 2013 5:09:17 GMT -5
I think that I made up my mind and am going with the Davis RF Bury-Flex www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php which I am going to buy here www.amateurradiosupplies.com/Buryflex-s/145.htm
I just can't justify paying $66.95 for LMR 400 or $82.99 for LMR 400 Ultra Flex for 50 feet. I can get the Bury-Flex for $54.99 for 50 feet. I will have them put on the Genuine Amphenol Ends on it which will cost me a few bucks more, but I would do that for whichever coax I would get. Plus buying it at Amateur Radio Supply the shipping is only $6.99, or free with a $150.00 order!
Maybe if I talked on the radio more and used more power like you guys I might of thought about the LMR 400, but I mainly listen and most of the time I seldom go over 100 watts! This definitely sheds more light on your situation !!! I went with 1/2'' h Andrews heliax because I came across 200' of it for free !! You could say doing construction electrical work for a living and the radio hobby go hand in hand sometimes!!!
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Post by spitfire441 on Feb 9, 2013 18:43:54 GMT -5
I think that I made up my mind and am going with the Davis RF Bury-Flex www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php which I am going to buy here www.amateurradiosupplies.com/Buryflex-s/145.htm
I just can't justify paying $66.95 for LMR 400 or $82.99 for LMR 400 Ultra Flex for 50 feet. I can get the Bury-Flex for $54.99 for 50 feet. I will have them put on the Genuine Amphenol Ends on it which will cost me a few bucks more, but I would do that for whichever coax I would get. Plus buying it at Amateur Radio Supply the shipping is only $6.99, or free with a $150.00 order!
Maybe if I talked on the radio more and used more power like you guys I might of thought about the LMR 400, but I mainly listen and most of the time I seldom go over 100 watts! At 27 Mhz AND at 50', anything fancier than RG-213 is overkill. There is not enough of a difference in loss to justify the extra cost. I wouldn't run LMR 400 for anything lower than VHF frequencies, unless I was like Pete, and had to run 300' of feedline to get to my antenna. I agree. Less than 100' under 30mhz, I'll use any coax I can get my hands on. When you go over 100' or 30mhz then get the best coax you can afford. Best yet keep an eye out for used commercial hardline. I have three 100' sections (obtained on the cheap) added together to get to my "up-the-hill-goundplane"
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Post by cbrown on Feb 11, 2013 9:50:55 GMT -5
I use it for the double shielding. I'm kinda nuts like that.
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