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Post by crazybob on Nov 25, 2008 16:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by gator7 on Nov 25, 2008 17:15:15 GMT -5
It better include gold plating for that price. My god, that is way over priced.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2008 18:05:17 GMT -5
Big Stick is 1/2 wave. Imax is 5/8, and is only 40% of the cost of the big stick.
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Post by Junior on Nov 25, 2008 18:19:42 GMT -5
That is the marine antenna. Add marine to anything, and it doubles the price. BOAT = Break Out Another Thousand.  I work in the marine field so I know these things :-) |
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Post by gator7 on Nov 25, 2008 20:04:34 GMT -5
LOL (BOAT) Ok, that explains the price. It's still nuts. ;D
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Nov 25, 2008 20:41:37 GMT -5
Big Stick is 1/2 wave. Imax is 5/8, and is only 40% of the cost of the big stick. |
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Post by Junior on Nov 26, 2008 9:07:57 GMT -5
Ed Zachary!
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Post by bootymonster on Dec 1, 2008 4:41:44 GMT -5
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Post by dgtr43 on Dec 1, 2008 16:04:54 GMT -5
Is the shakespeare pogostick a good antenna to use for cb? And does anyone know the power handling/gain for this antenna?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 20:21:44 GMT -5
Grumpy, but I don't think he wanted to put it on a boat. I think he was thinking about it for the house, and it doesn't make sense for that price.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 2, 2008 2:50:07 GMT -5
Is the shakespeare pogostick a good antenna to use for cb? And does anyone know the power handling/gain for this antenna? |
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 2, 2008 2:58:18 GMT -5
Grumpy, but I don't think he wanted to put it on a boat. I think he was thinking about it for the house, and it doesn't make sense for that price.
You were the one bringing up the Imax. I just stated that an Imax will never stand up to the Shakespeare on a boat. The 176 that is listed is not the same antenna as the ones made some years ago. Look at the coax connection at the base in the picture. If you ever had a Big Stick you would know that the coax connection was at the bottom of the base, not the side. This antenna is designed for Marine use, not for a house! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 9:14:27 GMT -5
I just figured that this is a CB forum, and every boat I have ever been on (I live near the Atlantic Ocean), has always used marine band. I have never been on a boat that uses CB. The marine band uses a much shorter antenna. Also, there is no practical use for an Imax on a boat because it is 24', and since most boats need to pass under some sort of drawbridge to get ocean access, the 24' (or even 18' big stick), just doesn't jive. Add to the fact that I don't even recall hearing a boat on a CB, from my base or mobile.
So, being a CB forum, being that most CBs are used in homes or car (and the big stick wouldn't fit well on a car), I assume that the poster had every intention of buying it for the house.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 2, 2008 13:04:02 GMT -5
I just figured that this is a CB forum, and every boat I have ever been on (I live near the Atlantic Ocean), has always used marine band. I have never been on a boat that uses CB. The marine band uses a much shorter antenna. Also, there is no practical use for an Imax on a boat because it is 24', and since most boats need to pass under some sort of drawbridge to get ocean access, the 24' (or even 18' big stick), just doesn't jive. Add to the fact that I don't even recall hearing a boat on a CB, from my base or mobile. So, being a CB forum, being that most CBs are used in homes or car (and the big stick wouldn't fit well on a car), I assume that the poster had every intention of buying it for the house.
Many people who have boats have CB Radios installed. I spent many years of my life on a boat near the Bay and the NJ Shore and have seen many installs! |
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Post by crazybob on Dec 2, 2008 15:01:09 GMT -5
I bought a 176 Shakespeare Big Stick in 1985 from a local CB shop. It was a 2 piece antenna. The A-99's weren't out yet. You couldn't get metal omni antennas anymore because of all of the electrocutions from power line contact. A lot of big sticks were used for CB bases at that time. I see ads for them in my old S9 magazines. Shakespeare marketed more to marine electronics much like Sonar did.
The point here is that they jack up the price sky high to sell to the marine demographics. I call it gouging. The list price for this antenna is around 100.00. They have it on sale for 215.00.
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Post by Junior on Dec 2, 2008 19:40:20 GMT -5
The marine antennas are made with MUCH better material than the land side antennas, such as chrome plated brass base and fittings, Heavier and better protected fiberglass to withstand the beating that they will have to take at sea,
stainless steel hardware, etc... The base is threaded internally for fitting to a lay down type mount, and they come with 18 to 20 feet of rg8x coax permanantly attached to eliminate corrossion problems. They also come with a pl259 which in some cases is gold plated. SS at the min.
Hopes this answers your questions.
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 2, 2008 20:21:23 GMT -5
I bought a 176 Shakespeare Big Stick in 1985 from a local CB shop. It was a 2 piece antenna. The A-99's weren't out yet. You couldn't get metal omni antennas anymore because of all of the electrocutions from power line contact. A lot of big sticks were used for CB bases at that time. I see ads for them in my old S9 magazines. Shakespeare marketed more to marine electronics much like Sonar did. The point here is that they jack up the price sky high to sell to the marine demographics. I call it gouging. The list price for this antenna is around 100.00. They have it on sale for 215.00.
Now the antenna that is listed is NOT the same antenna you bought in 1985. It is designed much different than what we had back in the day. Even though they use the same model number for the antenna, it is different. So they will sell them at a higher price, but $215.00 is steep
Russ down at R&R Communications still had a few of these left about 5 years ago. I was down there one day buying a used D104 from him and he was running a special on them to delete his old stock. If I remember right he was selling them for about $30.00. I didn't want to spend the extra money that week and went back a few weeks later and they were all gone  I was going to pick three of them up, one to use and the other two to re-sell. They performed much better than the A99, and they were built much better.
These A99 and Imax antennas are nothing compared to the Big Stick and Army Big Stick. I ran Big Sticks for years and always liked them. This year I was at my buddies place and he had a Pogo Stick that was brand new "still-in-the-tube". I asked him what he was going to do with it and he said he had no idea. I offered him $15.00 for it and he said I could have it. I just smiled ;D and loaded it in the car. It's still sitting here in the corner of my radio room waiting to be installed some day!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 20:33:14 GMT -5
I have been on about 12 different boats and have never seen a big stick on any of the boats I was on. All had VHF. Thought it looked like a ton of other boats had one, but I could not be sure because I wasn't up close. The other thing was the that most of them were open cabin boats, and CB would not hold up too well in that environment. I figured the the closed cabin boats would be better.
My friends with the boats say the same thing. Anything marine is automatically jacked up 300%. They were especially critical of marine paint, which is obscenely expensive. But I would never consider any Imax for a boat. Not that I ever did. I was assuming he was talking about for the house.
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Post by Sonwatcher on Dec 2, 2008 21:19:37 GMT -5
There was a Big Stick on Ebay that ended last week. It showed the core sticking out past the fiberglass. Was that for tuning or of stationary design ?
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Post by dgtr43 on Dec 3, 2008 4:11:11 GMT -5
Grumpy, if the conditions and antenna height is right, would you be able to do some dxing on the shakespeare pogo stick?
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 3, 2008 4:44:11 GMT -5
Grumpy, if the conditions and antenna height is right, would you be able to do some dxing on the shakespeare pogo stick? |
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Post by dgtr43 on Dec 6, 2008 22:59:44 GMT -5
I purchased it Grumpy should have it in a few days. Thanks!!
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Post by ak3383 on Sept 12, 2009 23:00:26 GMT -5
A shop near me has new/old Shakesspeares for $50.00 a piece.
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Post by Junior on Sept 16, 2009 8:48:23 GMT -5
The BigStick marine will be dound mostly on larger, 40' and up boats, as the size would probably tip over a little boat.LOL.
As for quality, I have had a BigStick up on tha tower for 25 years continuosly, and it still works great! Try that with a new clone antenna.
The only problems I have seen with these antennas is that if you dont put some sort of lube on the connector, it can be a bear to remove, since it is up inside the base, especially when used around salt water, but that is the pl-259s issue, not the antennas.
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Post by zman on Sept 18, 2009 15:21:15 GMT -5
I know a local OTer CB op that has a 1970s fishing boat (i dont know the make of the boat) and he still has a Shakespere fiberglass antenna on it he installed back in 1974. Talk about longevity!!!!
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Post by zman on Sept 18, 2009 15:24:32 GMT -5
Oh BTW, there are a TON of old Big Stick 2 piece CB atennas all over place place around here that are leftovers from the CB craze. Many of them are still up on roofs and mounted on the sides of house. I bet i can get them for nothing!
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I was going to pick three of them up, one to use and the other two to re-sell. They performed much better than the A99, and they were built much better.
