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Post by zman on Dec 7, 2009 2:01:13 GMT -5
I found a super scanner for sale in the local paper a guy has for sale for $75.00 with the control and relay box. He said it works and he doesnt use it anymore and the relay and control box are in good shape. While i was talking to him, i aksed about the power it will take. He said it will handle 100 watts because thats what he ran into it with his Heathkit HW 101 back in the 1970s but he didnt know what more it will take. Does anyone know how much it will take? I have a Maverick 250 amp that does 650 watts pep.
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 7, 2009 8:24:39 GMT -5
I found a super scanner for sale in the local paper a guy has for sale for $75.00 with the control and relay box. He said it works and he doesnt use it anymore and the relay and control box are in good shape. While i was talking to him, i aksed about the power it will take. He said it will handle 100 watts because thats what he ran into it with his Heathkit HW 101 back in the 1970s but he didnt know what more it will take. Does anyone know how much it will take? I have a Maverick 250 amp that does 650 watts pep. It all depends on which version of the antenna you have. The "older" version, used a section of coax cable as a matching stub, which was usually taped to the mast. This version should handle that Maverick 250 and anything up to 1Kw or so. You just shouldn't switch the antenna's position while you're keyed up with high power applied, or you might weld the relay contacts. The "newer" version of the antenna did away with the coaxial matching stub, and replaced it with some other internal matching circuit. On this antenna, I was told to not exceed 50 watts in the omni position, or you will burn up the matching circuit. However, in any of the directional positions, you were still good for 1 KW. But it only takes one "oops"........ |
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 7, 2009 10:48:33 GMT -5
The Super Scanner should take at least 500 watts. A friend of mine (White Buck) ran a SS with a Browning Mark III and a D&A Maverick all the time and never had any trouble. The most that I ever put through mine was 100 watts when I had it up and it took that just fine!
Zman, you do know that these antennas new were pretty darn cheap to buy, $75.00 seems a little steep to me for a used one. Heck when they first came out they were like $100.00 new. Just a heads up!
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 7, 2009 13:22:29 GMT -5
The Super Scanner should take at least 500 watts. A friend of mine (White Buck) ran a SS with a Browning Mark III and a D&A Maverick all the time and never had any trouble. The most that I ever put through mine was 100 watts when I had it up and it took that just fine!
Zman, you do know that these antennas new were pretty darn cheap to buy, $75.00 seems a little steep to me for a used one. Heck when they first came out they were like $100.00 new. Just a heads up! Again, it depends on which version of the relay box you have. Refer to the manual: www.cbtricks.com/ant_manuals/ant_specialists/ms_119/graphics/super_scanner_ms119_om.pdfThe manual shows both versions. The early version with the coax stub will handle 500+ watts with ease. The later version with the internal coil/cap matching network is rated for 50 watts max in the omni position. I don't know how much more can be safely put into it before the matcher actually burns up, but you're taking a chance. In any case, in any of the directional positions, it's not an issue, and it will take the power of most common amps, up to 1 KW. I don't know anyone who ran more than that so I don't know where the drop dead point is........... And The antenna did sell for something like $89.95 in the mid 70's. But considering that they don't make them anymore, the rate of inflation, and the potential collector's value, you could get $100 for one in like new condition today. After all, I could get a Hy-Gain Penetrator for $50 in the 70's, but try to find an equivalent today for under $150. Antennas have really gone outer limits in pricing.... |
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Post by **GRUMPY** on Dec 7, 2009 14:24:25 GMT -5
Still... $75.00 for a used antenna is a little much if you ask me, it's not like it's a Moonraker 6 or something. And if an antenna can't take more than 50 watts, what the hell is a good reason for having it? What ever floats someones boat I guess. It's like I see guys paying $500.00 for a Browning or Tram, no used one is worth that to me!
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Post by Sandbagger on Dec 7, 2009 17:43:52 GMT -5
Still... $75.00 for a used antenna is a little much if you ask me, it's not like it's a Moonraker 6 or something. And if an antenna can't take more than 50 watts, what the hell is a good reason for having it? What ever floats someones boat I guess. It's like I see guys paying $500.00 for a Browning or Tram, no used one is worth that to me! I totally agree. A used antenna is a used antenna regardless of it's nostalgic appeal. However if it's NIB, then it may be worth a bit more as a collector's item. Same with radios. A NIB (or nearly so) Tram or Browning may be worth $700 to a true collector. But one that's had the 100,000 mile tuneup already, IMHO, should not be, regardless of condition. But there are a good many people out there who evidently see things differently and that's why you see radios like garden variety Realistics on E-Pay fetching more than what they sold for new. All I can do, is scratch my head and wonder why? |
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Post by zman on Dec 8, 2009 0:29:53 GMT -5
LOL I saw a Tram D 201 A that is going for buy it now at 900.00!!!!!!!!!!!!
its kinda like the Collinsand Drake guys in ham radio that will pay big $$$ for radios that are mediore by todays standards. IMHo id never own a Collins KWM-2A (sucks on CW) but id definetly have a Drake TR-4CW any old day!!
As far as the Super Scanner id pay 75.00 for one that is in good cond becase on Ebay i have seen some USED ones (used mined you!) sell for between $125.00 and $500.00!!!
I also saw a MIB moonraker 4 sell for almost $700.00 once. Id never pay that for a MIB antenna but thats just me. One can still get the Wilson Shooting Star for about $300.00 and its a better made beam than the MR-4 IMO...
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Post by cbrown on Dec 8, 2009 14:09:37 GMT -5
I think a lot of these sales prices are being pushed as high as they are more from nostalgia than how the equipment actually performs.
That's a good thing if you are selling, not buying.
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Post by zman on Dec 12, 2009 19:54:46 GMT -5
Ebay has driven a lot of the used prices really high as well. Just go to a local ham fest and you will see what i mean. A lot of sellers are brazened by Ebay and have this attude that "Oh well, if i cant get what im asking out of it i will simply put it on Ebay and get that price or more out of it." I actually saw a ham prcing his used gear by using past sales of the same itmes on Ebay. He had a heathkit SB 220 for $750.00, a Kenwood TS 830s for $500.00 and a Cobra 2000 for $500.00 plus some other grossly overpriced stuff for sale as well. Well, at the end of the day he sold NOTHING..
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Post by cbrown on Dec 14, 2009 14:23:10 GMT -5
Usually by the end of the hamfests the prices drop as most people don't want to lug equipment back to the car to load up and then unload at home.
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Post by zman on Dec 24, 2009 16:32:35 GMT -5
Most sellers anymore pretty much dont care if they sell their goods or not. They simply just put them on Ebay. Its kinda sad but thats why the hamfests are dying.
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Post by cbrown on Dec 28, 2009 10:49:09 GMT -5
The thing they like about ebay is they don't have to lug the equipment anywhere, and if it doesn't sell they just relist it later.
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