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Post by Night Ranger on Jan 8, 2014 21:48:16 GMT -5
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Post by cbrown on Jan 9, 2014 10:32:45 GMT -5
Nice! I like looking at the older ads.
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Post by BBB on Jan 10, 2014 11:14:04 GMT -5
I like the second one... CB stuff repaired and sold by a Radiator Repair shop. Kind of a jack of all trades. I see a D&A and a few Panasonic tube base rigs in the pile.
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Post by captbarry on Jan 12, 2014 1:47:24 GMT -5
Yea I liked the second one too. He will bring the CB shop to you! I have some adds for CB stuff from the 70's mostly Browning though. I do recall that many of the radio adds back in the day had some pretty ladies with the radios! Browning did for sure and President / Uniden did as well.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 12, 2014 10:44:24 GMT -5
I like the second one... CB stuff repaired and sold by a Radiator Repair shop. Kind of a jack of all trades. I see a D&A and a few Panasonic tube base rigs in the pile. Yea, I found it interesting that the guy poses with pictures of VFO's and Amplifiers in a picture that will go out in a local newspaper. Just inviting a visit from the FCC, back in the day when they still policed the band. I remember those Longranger antennas. I had a 5' Longranger on the trunk of my Mustang back in 1977. It was a heavy monster that my trunk mount couldn't handle very well. It was always coming loose. But the antenna worked well.
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Post by doctor on Jan 12, 2014 20:17:48 GMT -5
A new one to me, try the rabbit ears?, I guess it was for CB.. DOCTOR
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Post by MonkeyMan on Jan 13, 2014 16:08:01 GMT -5
I have a minty example of the Kraco in the first ad. Seems it was a bit overpriced as compared to the G.E. unit.
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 13, 2014 17:22:08 GMT -5
I have a minty example of the Kraco in the first ad. Seems it was a bit overpriced as compared to the G.E. unit. Interestingly, both the Kraco and the GE both used the same Cybernet chassis. But based strictly on cosmetics, I would agree that the GE looks to be the better unit (heck, the S meter is larger!)
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Post by Night Ranger on Jan 13, 2014 21:35:50 GMT -5
I have a minty example of the Kraco in the first ad. Seems it was a bit overpriced as compared to the G.E. unit. Interestingly, both the Kraco and the GE both used the same Cybernet chassis. But based strictly on cosmetics, I would agree that the GE looks to be the better unit (heck, the S meter is larger!) Assuming that is the 40 channel version, that is the Kraco KCB-4010 with the two crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I have a new in the box 23 channel version of that radio KCB-2010b with the earlier three crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I also have a well used KCB-2310a with the pll01a chip, and a very worn and paint splattered KCB-2310 crystal synthesis version. I've been contemplating taking one of my ugly but working pll02a Cybernet boards and hooking the nine programming pins up to nine toggle switches just to goof around with changing the channels via direct binary entry. The ugliest working PLL02a radio I have is an old RCA Co-Pilot 14T260. It came in a junk box with a blown TA7205p audio chip. Night Ranger
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Post by spitfire441 on Jan 14, 2014 1:55:29 GMT -5
Interestingly, both the Kraco and the GE both used the same Cybernet chassis. But based strictly on cosmetics, I would agree that the GE looks to be the better unit (heck, the S meter is larger!) Assuming that is the 40 channel version, that is the Kraco KCB-4010 with the two crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I have a new in the box 23 channel version of that radio KCB-2010b with the earlier three crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I also have a well used KCB-2310a with the pll01a chip, and a very worn and paint splattered KCB-2310 crystal synthesis version. I've been contemplating taking one of my ugly but working pll02a Cybernet boards and hooking the nine programming pins up to nine toggle switches just to goof around with changing the channels via direct binary entry. The ugliest working PLL02a radio I have is an old RCA Co-Pilot 14T260. It came in a junk box with a blown TA7205p audio chip. Night Ranger Hey I have a Co- Pilot 14T260 too. It sounds plain jane no matter what mic on it. But hey I like the fooling around with toggles on the PLL idea. I need to make a VFO for another project, that may be the start of it, Hmmm, brain gears engaged.
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Post by Night Ranger on Jan 14, 2014 7:07:26 GMT -5
Assuming that is the 40 channel version, that is the Kraco KCB-4010 with the two crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I have a new in the box 23 channel version of that radio KCB-2010b with the earlier three crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I also have a well used KCB-2310a with the pll01a chip, and a very worn and paint splattered KCB-2310 crystal synthesis version. I've been contemplating taking one of my ugly but working pll02a Cybernet boards and hooking the nine programming pins up to nine toggle switches just to goof around with changing the channels via direct binary entry. The ugliest working PLL02a radio I have is an old RCA Co-Pilot 14T260. It came in a junk box with a blown TA7205p audio chip. Night Ranger Hey I have a Co- Pilot 14T260 too. It sounds plain jane no matter what mic on it. But hey I like the fooling around with toggles on the PLL idea. I need to make a VFO for another project, that may be the start of it, Hmmm, brain gears engaged. One of the projects that I have been kicking around is copying the Cybernet two crystal PLL02a design except changing the VCO frequency to work at the old 12 crystal 23 MHz, 14 MHz crystal synthesis master oscillator frequency. Then I can add 40 plus channels to my 23 channel Midland 13-853. That way the channel selector will always be set on my teenage home channel of 13, but the additional PLL circuit will put the radio anywhere I want. : ) Night Ranger
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 14, 2014 7:13:56 GMT -5
Interestingly, both the Kraco and the GE both used the same Cybernet chassis. But based strictly on cosmetics, I would agree that the GE looks to be the better unit (heck, the S meter is larger!) Assuming that is the 40 channel version, that is the Kraco KCB-4010 with the two crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I have a new in the box 23 channel version of that radio KCB-2010b with the earlier three crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I also have a well used KCB-2310a with the pll01a chip, and a very worn and paint splattered KCB-2310 crystal synthesis version. I've been contemplating taking one of my ugly but working pll02a Cybernet boards and hooking the nine programming pins up to nine toggle switches just to goof around with changing the channels via direct binary entry. The ugliest working PLL02a radio I have is an old RCA Co-Pilot 14T260. It came in a junk box with a blown TA7205p audio chip. Night Ranger I also have one of those 40 channel Kraco's. I converted it to a digital VFO to drive my SBE Trinidad, back when we used to talk on channel 29, and I wanted a quick and dirty way to get that 23 channel radio up there. The Kraco filled the bill well. The VCO ran at 37 Mhz which worked out just fine to drive the SBE. The channels didn't line up with the Kraco's dial, but I could have added a pair of 4008 adders and "fixed" that, if I really wanted to get fancy. But it was fine as it was. I also have a Lafayette HB-940 that has that chassis. I attempted to convert it to 6 meters, and got about as far as 49 MHz before I gave up on it. It would have required custom crystals to do it right, and I didn't feel like spending the money on them. I also have a J.C. Penney mobile with that chassis which I added FM and 2 bands of extra 40 channel to. I really liked those Cybernet radios. They just begged to be experimented on. And there were so many of them around, you never ran out of parts. When I first started playing with PLL's back in 1976, I toggled switched the known programming pins, and made a truth chart for all of the combinations, and what frequencies were available. I soon realized that this was a very cumbersome way of switching channels, and that it made more sense to just augment the channel selector with a few extra switches to basically accomplish the same thing. But it was a fun time experimenting like that, and those old Cybernet boards were really easy to understand and modify.
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Post by Night Ranger on Jan 14, 2014 21:24:45 GMT -5
Assuming that is the 40 channel version, that is the Kraco KCB-4010 with the two crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I have a new in the box 23 channel version of that radio KCB-2010b with the earlier three crystal pll02a Cybernet board. I also have a well used KCB-2310a with the pll01a chip, and a very worn and paint splattered KCB-2310 crystal synthesis version. I've been contemplating taking one of my ugly but working pll02a Cybernet boards and hooking the nine programming pins up to nine toggle switches just to goof around with changing the channels via direct binary entry. The ugliest working PLL02a radio I have is an old RCA Co-Pilot 14T260. It came in a junk box with a blown TA7205p audio chip. Night Ranger I also have one of those 40 channel Kraco's. I converted it to a digital VFO to drive my SBE Trinidad, back when we used to talk on channel 29, and I wanted a quick and dirty way to get that 23 channel radio up there. The Kraco filled the bill well. The VCO ran at 37 Mhz which worked out just fine to drive the SBE. The channels didn't line up with the Kraco's dial, but I could have added a pair of 4008 adders and "fixed" that, if I really wanted to get fancy. But it was fine as it was. I also have a Lafayette HB-940 that has that chassis. I attempted to convert it to 6 meters, and got about as far as 49 MHz before I gave up on it. It would have required custom crystals to do it right, and I didn't feel like spending the money on them. I also have a J.C. Penney mobile with that chassis which I added FM and 2 bands of extra 40 channel to. I really liked those Cybernet radios. They just begged to be experimented on. And there were so many of them around, you never ran out of parts. When I first started playing with PLL's back in 1976, I toggled switched the known programming pins, and made a truth chart for all of the combinations, and what frequencies were available. I soon realized that this was a very cumbersome way of switching channels, and that it made more sense to just augment the channel selector with a few extra switches to basically accomplish the same thing. But it was a fun time experimenting like that, and those old Cybernet boards were really easy to understand and modify. All the way back in 1979 I purchased a highly desirable radio by chance. It was my first 40 channel radio, and I bought it with money from my first summer job. Woolco was closing it out at $99 with no returns. Unfortunately it had a heat problem that would cause the radio to stop receiving and transmitting after about 15 minutes. I had no clue how to fix it back then. Pitty. I could probably fix it now. Anyway it was a Midland 79-892 40 channel sideband mobile, and it had the American three crystal Cybernet PLL02a sideband board....the very same board that was in the GE Super Base and the Lafayette Telsat SSB-140. I had no idea about the hidden channels that were begging to be awakened in that thing back in 1979. If I had known I would have spent the extra money to ship it off to Midland to be repaired. It probably just needed the VCO voltage tweaked, but again I was clueless to radio theory at age 16. I did not start reading the ARRL radio handbooks until 1984. Now here I am saying what I heard countless adults say when I was a kid...."If I had only known then what I know now." I sold the radio about a year later to a friend to get some money to take out my new super hot girlfriend. Unfortunately she dumped me a few weeks later, and then I had neither the radio or the girl. Many years later I found two Midland 79-892 radios new in the box on Ebay, and I purchased them. I also found a non-working one for cheap that I fixed, and another good condition used one that I also purchased. I may not have the girl, but I have four Midland 79-892s now. : ) Night Ranger
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Post by Sandbagger on Jan 14, 2014 22:01:14 GMT -5
I also have one of those 40 channel Kraco's. I converted it to a digital VFO to drive my SBE Trinidad, back when we used to talk on channel 29, and I wanted a quick and dirty way to get that 23 channel radio up there. The Kraco filled the bill well. The VCO ran at 37 Mhz which worked out just fine to drive the SBE. The channels didn't line up with the Kraco's dial, but I could have added a pair of 4008 adders and "fixed" that, if I really wanted to get fancy. But it was fine as it was. I also have a Lafayette HB-940 that has that chassis. I attempted to convert it to 6 meters, and got about as far as 49 MHz before I gave up on it. It would have required custom crystals to do it right, and I didn't feel like spending the money on them. I also have a J.C. Penney mobile with that chassis which I added FM and 2 bands of extra 40 channel to. I really liked those Cybernet radios. They just begged to be experimented on. And there were so many of them around, you never ran out of parts. When I first started playing with PLL's back in 1976, I toggled switched the known programming pins, and made a truth chart for all of the combinations, and what frequencies were available. I soon realized that this was a very cumbersome way of switching channels, and that it made more sense to just augment the channel selector with a few extra switches to basically accomplish the same thing. But it was a fun time experimenting like that, and those old Cybernet boards were really easy to understand and modify. All the way back in 1979 I purchased a highly desirable radio by chance. It was my first 40 channel radio, and I bought it with money from my first summer job. Woolco was closing it out at $99 with no returns. Unfortunately it had a heat problem that would cause the radio to stop receiving and transmitting after about 15 minutes. I had no clue how to fix it back then. Pitty. I could probably fix it now. Anyway it was a Midland 79-892 40 channel sideband mobile, and it had the American three crystal Cybernet PLL02a sideband board....the very same board that was in the GE Super Base and the Lafayette Telsat SSB-140. I had no idea about the hidden channels that were begging to be awakened in that thing back in 1979. If I had known I would have spent the extra money to ship it off to Midland to be repaired. It probably just needed the VCO voltage tweaked, but again I was clueless to radio theory at age 16. I did not start reading the ARRL radio handbooks until 1984. Now here I am saying what I heard countless adults say when I was a kid...."If I had only known then what I know now." I sold the radio about a year later to a friend to get some money to take out my new super hot girlfriend. Unfortunately she dumped me a few weeks later, and then I had neither the radio or the girl. Many years later I found two Midland 79-892 radios new in the box on Ebay, and I purchased them. I also found a non-working one for cheap that I fixed, and another good condition used one that I also purchased. I may not have the girl, but I have four Midland 79-892s now. : ) Night Ranger Sounds like you got the better end of that deal, albeit some years later I had a Lafayette Telsat SSB 80 mobile with the SSB Cybernet board in it. I went nuts with that radio. I originally designed a digital frequency display using 7 segment displays and some parallel counter chips to drive the PLL pins. That worked pretty well. Some years later, I scrapped that in favor of the "newfangled" method of using 4008 adders to make "bands" of 40 channels. I also added FM to it, and I removed the PLL block and chipped away at the epoxy until I could parallel an additional varactor diode on the solder side of the block. That gave me channels all over the place (didn't hold power as well as the Uniden 858 chassis though). I just loved experimenting on that radio.......
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Post by Night Ranger on Jan 14, 2014 23:13:58 GMT -5
Sounds like you got the better end of that deal, albeit some years later I had a Lafayette Telsat SSB 80 mobile with the SSB Cybernet board in it. I went nuts with that radio. I originally designed a digital frequency display using 7 segment displays and some parallel counter chips to drive the PLL pins. That worked pretty well. Some years later, I scrapped that in favor of the "newfangled" method of using 4008 adders to make "bands" of 40 channels. I also added FM to it, and I removed the PLL block and chipped away at the epoxy until I could parallel an additional varactor diode on the solder side of the block. That gave me channels all over the place (didn't hold power as well as the Uniden 858 chassis though). I just loved experimenting on that radio....... A picture is worth a 1000 words. : ) www.shadowstorm.com/cb/rigs/Midland_79-892s.jpgThe fourth Midland 79-892 is out in my car. It looks worn, but it works like new. Night Ranger
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Post by mark4 on Jan 25, 2014 15:41:19 GMT -5
I want the burger chef in the add lol
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