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Post by spitfire441 on Apr 9, 2015 4:52:29 GMT -5
This weeks Watergate, Turner mic night.
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Post by No Streak on Apr 9, 2015 15:08:43 GMT -5
Everyone sounded great on their Turner microphone's last night!
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Post by BBB on Apr 9, 2015 17:02:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the Gate!
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Post by Sandbagger on Apr 24, 2015 8:47:53 GMT -5
April 15th's gate:
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Post by Sandbagger on Apr 24, 2015 8:48:55 GMT -5
April 22nd's gate:
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Post by BBB on Apr 24, 2015 13:10:34 GMT -5
Super duper thanks for the gate Spitfire! Sounding good.
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Post by spitfire441 on Sept 24, 2015 4:37:25 GMT -5
The 'Gates are back......
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Post by cbrown on Sept 24, 2015 8:45:09 GMT -5
Interesting as always, thanks!
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Post by Sandbagger on Sept 24, 2015 9:08:31 GMT -5
The 'Gates are back...... Well, the new tablet is certainly better than the old one. Audio levels were good, and the video focus seemed better as well. Good Gate! Glad to see CRR immortalized in the cloud for years to come......
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Post by spitfire441 on Sept 24, 2015 13:52:51 GMT -5
The 'Gates are back...... Well, the new tablet is certainly better than the old one. Audio levels were good, and the video focus seemed better as well. Good Gate! Glad to see CRR immortalized in the cloud for years to come...... Regency Imperial came through in fine style, good fun on CRR. The new tablet is just fine. I hope it stays that way.
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Post by BBB on Sept 24, 2015 20:56:21 GMT -5
Classic 0-5 reference starting at 1:16 on Since the forum is open on this topic now he must be listening in... Where are you Fire Starter Ohio Resident?
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Post by "Doc"Hammer on Sept 25, 2015 14:00:38 GMT -5
Well, the new tablet is certainly better than the old one. Audio levels were good, and the video focus seemed better as well. Good Gate! Glad to see CRR immortalized in the cloud for years to come...... Regency Imperial came through in fine style, good fun on CRR. The new tablet is just fine. I hope it stays that way. Install SKYPE on that tablet!
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Post by spitfire441 on Oct 1, 2015 6:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by BBB on Oct 1, 2015 16:06:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the gate. Dig your receiver. Nice shot of your Multi-Elmac at 1:43.
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Post by spitfire441 on Oct 8, 2015 0:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by spitfire441 on Oct 18, 2015 5:20:19 GMT -5
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Post by BBB on Oct 19, 2015 9:24:17 GMT -5
Thank you again for the gate Boy I sound way over modulated on that gate. Weird that I don't sound that way on my monitor which is simply a Cobra HT with a rubber ducky antenna and some quality studio headphones; nor is the O-scope showing flat-topping or the analyzer showing spurs. Freaky, close proximity stuff maybe? I'm definitely going to turn down the modulation in that browning Mark III, but was told by several radio techs over the years that even if the system is outputting a clean signal overall but you are running a considerable amount of output power (+400W) you will more than likely sound distorted to most locals within a few miles. (This definitely goes for me on my receive end when listening to Spitfire or 44 Dave when they run heat, so I always mention my proximity to the local operators when giving audio reports for that reason) Both are within 5 miles radius. Guess I'll have to throttle back a bit if the gate is rolling
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Post by Sandbagger on Oct 19, 2015 12:41:58 GMT -5
Thank you again for the gate Boy I sound way over modulated on that gate. Weird that I don't sound that way on my monitor which is simply a Cobra HT with a rubber ducky antenna and some quality studio headphones; nor is the O-scope showing flat-topping or the analyzer showing spurs. Freaky, close proximity stuff maybe? I'm definitely going to turn down the modulation in that browning Mark III, but was told by several radio techs over the years that even if the system is outputting a clean signal overall but you are running a considerable amount of output power (+400W) you will more than likely sound distorted to most locals within a few miles. (This definitely goes for me on my receive end when listening to Spitfire or 44 Dave when they run heat, so I always mention my proximity to the local operators when giving audio reports for that reason) Both are within 5 miles radius. Guess I'll have to throttle back a bit if the gate is rolling Your Browning was loud, but it wasn't as distorted sounding as whatever you switched to later on (Assuming your HiFi Yaesu, with the excessive swing). The Browning sounds good on my end. But most Browning guys recommend that you run the internal mic gain no higher than 3/4 of the way up, to keep from overmodulating. The amount of power you're running should not have an effect on your intelligibility provided it's truly a linear amplification. You have to be really strong to overload a receiver's AGC. A guy 5 miles away running 300 watts, should not be any stronger, or more distorted than a guy 1/2 mile away running barefoot. It used to be a common CB myth that guys who would sound "fuzzy" or otherwise distorted close by when they kick on the amp, would somehow sound better in the distance, is based on the fact that distant signals would mix with noise, and that noise would "fill in" the signal's distortion such that it was harder to discern from the noise. But it was still there. If your signal distorts when running an amp, there is something wrong. Insufficient bias (Class C, non-linearity), over drive (Not enough headroom), or improper tuning are the most common issues with amplifiers.
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Post by BBB on Oct 19, 2015 18:59:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the response and Yes I do understand all of those principles. Obviously, from having worked in the professional audio equipment industry for many years prior, I can identify distortion when I hear it. What I'm still trying to get a grip on (and may never) is why I do not sound distorted or over-driven on my system monitor radios...the Cobra or Radio Shack HTs that just sit in the shack monitoring OTA transmissions. Wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the antenna is 35' directly above the shack or that the use of the low gain rubber ducky antenna on the HTs somehow null the possible distortion OTA. That just doesn't make any sense either. Something just doesn't add up yet. Maybe I should switch the monitor headphone from the left side of my brain to the right side
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Post by Sandbagger on Oct 20, 2015 6:30:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the response and Yes I do understand all of those principles. Obviously, from having worked in the professional audio equipment industry for many years prior, I can identify distortion when I hear it. What I'm still trying to get a grip on (and may never) is why I do not sound distorted or over-driven on my system monitor radios...the Cobra or Radio Shack HTs that just sit in the shack monitoring OTA transmissions. Wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the antenna is 35' directly above the shack or that the use of the low gain rubber ducky antenna on the HTs somehow null the possible distortion OTA. That just doesn't make any sense either. Something just doesn't add up yet. Maybe I should switch the monitor headphone from the left side of my brain to the right side All knobs to the right!!!!!! I think part of what may be happening has to do with excessive swing and the AGC response in Pete's old Hallicrafters. It may not be able to track crazy swing accurately, and it distorts the audio. Also, I used to have a problem with guys running super swing class C amps, when I used to run my Yaesu FT-757 years ago. Seems the noise blanker in the Yaesu would see the in-band splatter from those class C amps as noise and attempt to blank it, which would distort the heck out of the signal. Turning the NB off would solve the problem, but if there is a circuit like that in Pete's receiver, that might account for it as well. Bottom line, keep it clean. Class C is verboten on any form of AM (suppressed carrier or not).
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Post by spitfire441 on Oct 21, 2015 23:25:02 GMT -5
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Post by BBB on Oct 22, 2015 10:01:06 GMT -5
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Post by Sandbagger on Oct 22, 2015 12:34:06 GMT -5
Great turnout for the show last night! Thank you for creating and posting the gate Spitfire. For the record and what it's worth... I pride myself on running a good sounding station with proper monitoring techniques and test equipment. I wanted to let folks listening to the gate know that I do not sound that distorted during normal OTA transmissions to the bulk of fellow operators in the area. I accept this compromise and we're moving on Audio processing and monitoring equipment utilized in last nights gate: I would agree that something has changed on Pete's end as far as the recording goes, since the older gates. Everyone sounded a little "boofy", as if there was simply too much 300-500 hz in there. I wasn't happy with how my Simba sounded in the beginning. It seemed to get better later on. I don't know if that was because I just got used to listening to it, or something actually changed. Since Pete's using a new tablet, which seems to have sharper video and more gain on the audio than his old tablet, there may have to be some adjustments made to dial it all in so it's sounding Train approved. Maybe as simple as placing it closer to the speaker, and backing the mic gain down a little....
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Post by spitfire441 on Oct 29, 2015 1:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by BBB on Nov 2, 2015 10:26:53 GMT -5
Nice sounding Gate this time Spitfire, Thanks! I ran a old Yaesu FT101EE with a 2100B chaser just to make sure there were no audio discrepancies on my side, but the Trinidad came to the CRR Gate rescue! Funny thing, a minute after I signed out at 10 PM, we lost power due to a fallen tree into the lines around the corner. Good timing Mr Murphy
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Post by Sandbagger on Nov 2, 2015 12:32:46 GMT -5
Nice sounding Gate this time Spitfire, Thanks! I ran a old Yaesu FT101EE with a 2100B chaser just to make sure there were no audio discrepancies on my side, but the Trinidad came to the CRR Gate rescue! Funny thing, a minute after I signed out at 10 PM, we lost power due to a fallen tree into the lines around the corner. Good timing Mr Murphy This gate was much like the gates of olde...... The volume had to be run up quite a bit on the playback. Although there were times where the volume was stronger than others (Tablet placement?). But it did sound cleaner than the previous week.
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Post by spitfire441 on Nov 12, 2015 6:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by spitfire441 on Nov 19, 2015 1:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by spitfire441 on Nov 26, 2015 1:04:43 GMT -5
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Post by BBB on Nov 28, 2015 11:45:18 GMT -5
Great Gates Alive! Big Multi-County CRR turnout. Funniest part of the evening for me was at around 55:19+ where we were talking about the technical pros of the SBE Console II and Skeeter chimed in a few seconds later Classic fun.
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